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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kularian" data-source="post: 3163445" data-attributes="member: 25810">Okay, fair enough to all of the 'Death by DM' comments, lol.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />   I'm not a powergamer, so I probably wouldn't ever do anything close to that.  But when coming up with designs for uber-characters, it's still a possibility.  Ah, good point.  Making the Agile Shield Fighter feat kinda worthless for me.  Meh, that's fine.  So here's what I have so far, and anyone can feel free to correct me as they wish:Currently using a Longsword and a Large Spiked Wooden Shield.1d8 w/ my main hand, and 1d6 w/ my offhand, both at a -4 weapon penalty.Picking up Oversized TWF, that reduces the penalties to -2/-2, which is much more desirable.Upon being able to prestige into Tempest, by my third level in the Tempest class, the penalties are now reduced to 0/0, making it essentially 'perfect' TWF.  When the money is added into the picture, I upgrade my shield to have the bashing property, increasing its damage to 1d10 (or 2d6, depending on the table used.)By picking up Improved Shield Bash, I will retain my shield bonus to AC, despite bashing people's faces with it.So, with a little work, and a magic enhancement, the shield becomes essentially a Bastard Sword (or 1h Greatsword), which is enhanceable for defense and offense, though it does cost quite a bit of money.  Also, it constantly gives me a defensive shield bonus, more than that of TWD, and also enhanceable. I'd say, despite the feats needed, it's quite a viable build.</blockquote>

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