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<blockquote data-quote="Yunru" data-source="post: 6701061" data-attributes="member: 6780961"><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">...</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Can't think of a way to make it about food.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">...</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Damn.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Anyway, running some basic numbers, changing the Two Weapon Fighting (Fighter?) Fighting Style from adding +mod, to applying Extra Attack to it seems to make it actually viable.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Compare:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">A Greatsword with GWF deals 2d6 damage, rerolling the first 1 or 2. That's an average of 8.33333.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">A Shortsword with TWF would deal 1d6 damage, twice. That's an average of 7, and it uses your Bonus action.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Throw in Extra Attack, and we get 16.6666666, vs 14.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">But Fighters can get three attacks: 25 vs 21.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Or even four: 33.33333 vs 28.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Of course, the Greatsword does more evenly distrubted damage, while the Shortswords are heavily weighted towards the average.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Oh and we can't forget Hex (or the whimpy Hunter's Mark) now can we?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">No Extra Attack: 11.83333, vs 10.5</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Extra Attack 1: 23.6666, vs 28</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Extra Attack 2: 35.5, vs 42</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Extra Attack 3: 47.3333, vs 56</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Of course, this isn't accounting for the fact that Hex/Hunter's Mark can't be used in the same turn as you would benefit from TWF, which actually brings the numbers more in line (on those rounds TWF's output is halved).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">Thoughts?</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yunru, post: 6701061, member: 6780961"] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]...[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Can't think of a way to make it about food.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]...[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Damn.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Anyway, running some basic numbers, changing the Two Weapon Fighting (Fighter?) Fighting Style from adding +mod, to applying Extra Attack to it seems to make it actually viable.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Compare:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]A Greatsword with GWF deals 2d6 damage, rerolling the first 1 or 2. That's an average of 8.33333.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]A Shortsword with TWF would deal 1d6 damage, twice. That's an average of 7, and it uses your Bonus action.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Throw in Extra Attack, and we get 16.6666666, vs 14.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]But Fighters can get three attacks: 25 vs 21.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Or even four: 33.33333 vs 28.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Of course, the Greatsword does more evenly distrubted damage, while the Shortswords are heavily weighted towards the average.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Oh and we can't forget Hex (or the whimpy Hunter's Mark) now can we?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]No Extra Attack: 11.83333, vs 10.5[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Extra Attack 1: 23.6666, vs 28[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Extra Attack 2: 35.5, vs 42[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Extra Attack 3: 47.3333, vs 56[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Of course, this isn't accounting for the fact that Hex/Hunter's Mark can't be used in the same turn as you would benefit from TWF, which actually brings the numbers more in line (on those rounds TWF's output is halved).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Open Sans]Thoughts?[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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