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<blockquote data-quote="The_Ditto" data-source="post: 3275069" data-attributes="member: 30566">I'd look at it this way ...Holding Torch in left hand, holding Long sword in right.You have a BaB that grants 4 attacks.Attack with Long Sword 4 times - any penalties? No - because you are not &quot;wielding&quot; the torch, just holding it .. Two Weapon fighting doesn't enter the picture.Now, replace the Torch with a Dagger and ask the same question ... you're not attacking with the dagger, so again, no TWF issues arise .. so yeah, 4 attacks with Long Sword, no penalties .Finally, we want to attack twice with Long sword and twice with Dagger ... I'm not honestly sure if any rules clearly lay this out ... but I'd see no reason to impose penalties ... it doesn't seem to be really different to me in any case, and you've obviously given up using your left hand for something (arguably) more useful - such as shield, two handed fighting, or holding that torch so you could see ...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="The_Ditto, post: 3275069, member: 30566"] I'd look at it this way ... Holding Torch in left hand, holding Long sword in right. You have a BaB that grants 4 attacks. Attack with Long Sword 4 times - any penalties? No - because you are not "wielding" the torch, just holding it .. Two Weapon fighting doesn't enter the picture. Now, replace the Torch with a Dagger and ask the same question ... you're not attacking with the dagger, so again, no TWF issues arise .. so yeah, 4 attacks with Long Sword, no penalties . Finally, we want to attack twice with Long sword and twice with Dagger ... I'm not honestly sure if any rules clearly lay this out ... but I'd see no reason to impose penalties ... it doesn't seem to be really different to me in any case, and you've obviously given up using your left hand for something (arguably) more useful - such as shield, two handed fighting, or holding that torch so you could see ... ;) [/QUOTE]

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