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<blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5029213" data-attributes="member: 54707"><p>Okay, in another thread Umbran suggested that I look into the series <em><strong>Twilight</strong></em> (which my wife and daughters love), because apparently he and some others (assuming they were being serious, and I can't really know just from a sentence or two on the internet) think there is something wrong with it, or at disturbing about it, at least in part.</p><p></p><p>And I'm gonna be doing my own investigation into the matter, but from what I can tell, at least preliminarily, the most common objections seem to be centered around the fact that the relationship between the boy and girl is considered abusive or repressive. (Keep in mind folks that I know nothing about this series and have tried my dead-level best to avoid it, because it's a chick thing, and me and most chick things aren't usually all that simpatico. So I'm operating in the dark here.)</p><p></p><p>Still, I'd like to know what other people's opinions are around here on this matter because I'm assuming that quite a few folks on a site like this will have opinions one way or another. So if you have an opinion on whether Twilight is good, bad, neutral, silly, corrupting, edifying, or whatever the case, then let me know. I'd appreciate a little detail in order to flesh out the context of what you're saying, but that's up to you.</p><p></p><p>I'm just soliciting opinions and ideas here. As well as getting some idea of what maybe I should be investigating and what that might mean.</p><p></p><p>Of course you don't have to limit your comments to those subjects specifically, but that's what I've run across thus far.</p><p></p><p>Through a slightly wider lens another thing it made me think about is the Romantic Ideal itself. (I got nothing against romance folks, I like some of the aspects of it a'lot, historical and current, and think it has done Western and other societies a lot of good, as well as some real harm.)</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>But this whole range of subject matter has made me think about these things in regards to Romance:</strong></p><p></p><p>1. When and how is Romance too self-sacrificial? </p><p></p><p>2. When and how is Romance too reckless?</p><p></p><p>3. When and how is Romance too self-absorbed and abusive?</p><p></p><p>4. When is Romance liberating (in a good sense), and in what ways?</p><p></p><p>5. How do you balance out Romance to make it both useful and advantageous to everyone involved?</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, if you got some opinions then have at it...</p><p>And you don't have to limit yourself to my exact lines of inquiry, but I am interested in your opinions about what I asked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack7, post: 5029213, member: 54707"] Okay, in another thread Umbran suggested that I look into the series [I][B]Twilight[/B][/I] (which my wife and daughters love), because apparently he and some others (assuming they were being serious, and I can't really know just from a sentence or two on the internet) think there is something wrong with it, or at disturbing about it, at least in part. And I'm gonna be doing my own investigation into the matter, but from what I can tell, at least preliminarily, the most common objections seem to be centered around the fact that the relationship between the boy and girl is considered abusive or repressive. (Keep in mind folks that I know nothing about this series and have tried my dead-level best to avoid it, because it's a chick thing, and me and most chick things aren't usually all that simpatico. So I'm operating in the dark here.) Still, I'd like to know what other people's opinions are around here on this matter because I'm assuming that quite a few folks on a site like this will have opinions one way or another. So if you have an opinion on whether Twilight is good, bad, neutral, silly, corrupting, edifying, or whatever the case, then let me know. I'd appreciate a little detail in order to flesh out the context of what you're saying, but that's up to you. I'm just soliciting opinions and ideas here. As well as getting some idea of what maybe I should be investigating and what that might mean. Of course you don't have to limit your comments to those subjects specifically, but that's what I've run across thus far. Through a slightly wider lens another thing it made me think about is the Romantic Ideal itself. (I got nothing against romance folks, I like some of the aspects of it a'lot, historical and current, and think it has done Western and other societies a lot of good, as well as some real harm.) [B]But this whole range of subject matter has made me think about these things in regards to Romance:[/B] 1. When and how is Romance too self-sacrificial? 2. When and how is Romance too reckless? 3. When and how is Romance too self-absorbed and abusive? 4. When is Romance liberating (in a good sense), and in what ways? 5. How do you balance out Romance to make it both useful and advantageous to everyone involved? So, if you got some opinions then have at it... And you don't have to limit yourself to my exact lines of inquiry, but I am interested in your opinions about what I asked. [/QUOTE]
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