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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 5033065" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Did you read the books? If no, then you "doing some research and talking to people" seems woefully inadequate given you can actually judge it for yourself. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No sillier than what I think people are warping out of the Twilight books without reading them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are controlling and physically aggressive, in general, not just to women. Same as in Star Wars. Same as in most adventure material. Male hero characters tend to be physically aggressive and controlling in adventure tales. It's just that, usually, that material is aimed at a young male audience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, he does not. Again, you clearly have never read the material you're making MASSIVE assumptions about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is you've made these assumptions based on essentially the same sort of stuff people made assumptions about D&D, back in the 70s. You've taken small things out of context and blown it up to be a big conclusion about the entire theme. Ask yourself if a game about killing things and taking stuff off their corpses so you can get rich is a fair characterization of D&D and if you could spin that to being a negative stereotype for young men. That's about the equivalent to what I think you're doing.</p><p></p><p>Read the books first. Don't go in LOOKING for the conclusion you've already drawn, just read them like you would read any old fantasy novel. I bet you do not come away with the conclusion you've already drawn, IF you can try and eliminate your bias going in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 5033065, member: 2525"] Did you read the books? If no, then you "doing some research and talking to people" seems woefully inadequate given you can actually judge it for yourself. No sillier than what I think people are warping out of the Twilight books without reading them. They are controlling and physically aggressive, in general, not just to women. Same as in Star Wars. Same as in most adventure material. Male hero characters tend to be physically aggressive and controlling in adventure tales. It's just that, usually, that material is aimed at a young male audience. No, he does not. Again, you clearly have never read the material you're making MASSIVE assumptions about. The problem is you've made these assumptions based on essentially the same sort of stuff people made assumptions about D&D, back in the 70s. You've taken small things out of context and blown it up to be a big conclusion about the entire theme. Ask yourself if a game about killing things and taking stuff off their corpses so you can get rich is a fair characterization of D&D and if you could spin that to being a negative stereotype for young men. That's about the equivalent to what I think you're doing. Read the books first. Don't go in LOOKING for the conclusion you've already drawn, just read them like you would read any old fantasy novel. I bet you do not come away with the conclusion you've already drawn, IF you can try and eliminate your bias going in. [/QUOTE]
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