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<blockquote data-quote="luide" data-source="post: 5068682" data-attributes="member: 74205"><p>Samir argues that the word <em>attack</em> in following quote (PHB 269) refers to <strong>Attack:</strong> line in power.</p><p></p><p>Which would resolve to following line in power</p><p>Personally I think it can only mean whole power used for attack, which in this case would resolve to following parts:</p><p>This interpretation has added bonus of fulfilling the "Each attack has an attack type." portion of the rule quote above, <strong>Melee </strong>or <strong>Ranged</strong> in this case.</p><p></p><p>It's also far more logical way to parse powers. </p><p>I'll give you rundown how Twin Strike (quoted below) should be read/resolved in my opinion as per PHB 269:</p><p><strong>Twin Strike</strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong>At-Will</strong> <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/images/bullet.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> <strong>Martial</strong>, <strong>Weapon</strong></p><p><strong>Standard Action</strong> <strong>Melee or Ranged</strong> weapon</p><p><strong>Requirement</strong>: You must be wielding two melee weapons or a ranged weapon.</p><p></p><p><strong>Targets</strong>: One or two creatures</p><p><strong>Attack</strong>: Strength vs. AC (melee; main weapon and off-hand weapon) or Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks</p><p>Technically the vs. AC part of the <strong>Attack:</strong> line is resolved here.</p><p><strong>Hit</strong>: 1[W] damage per attack.</p><p>Increase damage to 2[W] at 21st level.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In-play example with Ranger: </p><p>1. Ranger decides to use Twin Strike. (Requirements for power are fullfilled.)</p><p>2a. Ranger picks his targets, Orc A and Orc B. (Targets are valid.)</p><p>2b. Ranger picks Orc A as his only target. (Target is valid)</p><p>3. Ranger makes two attack rolls. (IMO this is what the "two attacks" in Twin Strike really means). His total is 21 for first roll (Orc A) and 19 for second roll (a:Orc B, b: Orc A again)</p><p>4. Poor Orcs have only AC of 18, both attacks hit. </p><p>5. Ranger rolls damage separately for attacks. Damage from both attacks is taken simultaneusly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="luide, post: 5068682, member: 74205"] Samir argues that the word [I]attack[/I] in following quote (PHB 269) refers to [B]Attack:[/B] line in power. Which would resolve to following line in power Personally I think it can only mean whole power used for attack, which in this case would resolve to following parts: This interpretation has added bonus of fulfilling the "Each attack has an attack type." portion of the rule quote above, [B]Melee [/B]or [B]Ranged[/B] in this case. It's also far more logical way to parse powers. I'll give you rundown how Twin Strike (quoted below) should be read/resolved in my opinion as per PHB 269: [B]Twin Strike [/B][B]At-Will[/B] [IMG]http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/images/bullet.gif[/IMG] [B]Martial[/B], [B]Weapon[/B] [B]Standard Action[/B] [B]Melee or Ranged[/B] weapon [B]Requirement[/B]: You must be wielding two melee weapons or a ranged weapon. [B]Targets[/B]: One or two creatures [B]Attack[/B]: Strength vs. AC (melee; main weapon and off-hand weapon) or Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks Technically the vs. AC part of the [B]Attack:[/B] line is resolved here. [B]Hit[/B]: 1[W] damage per attack. Increase damage to 2[W] at 21st level. In-play example with Ranger: 1. Ranger decides to use Twin Strike. (Requirements for power are fullfilled.) 2a. Ranger picks his targets, Orc A and Orc B. (Targets are valid.) 2b. Ranger picks Orc A as his only target. (Target is valid) 3. Ranger makes two attack rolls. (IMO this is what the "two attacks" in Twin Strike really means). His total is 21 for first roll (Orc A) and 19 for second roll (a:Orc B, b: Orc A again) 4. Poor Orcs have only AC of 18, both attacks hit. 5. Ranger rolls damage separately for attacks. Damage from both attacks is taken simultaneusly. [/QUOTE]
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