Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9154814" data-attributes="member: 9254">I think this is a more of a gut-reaction to the balance problem, rather than rules-as-written analysis.E.g. "can these be twinned":<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">a spell that does AoE slashing damage - NO</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A spell that gives the caster-only claws - NO</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A spell that gives any one creature touched claws that do damage - YES</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A spell that turns any one creature into a lion - YES</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A spell that gives any one creature touched a breath weapon/gaze attack/AoE - (meltdown)</li> </ul>Claws obviously can affect multiple creatures over time, especially if cast on a fighter. Are they the "target"?  Well, no, the person who gets the claws is the target.I personally think the meltdown is "But with Dragon's Breath there are Saves! The creatures that make Saves from a spell must be the target....right?"And that's silly.  Polymorph can get a form with a knockdown attack which has saves and yet Polymorph is clearly in the "ok to twin" category</blockquote>