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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3106396" data-attributes="member: 18363">Persoanlly, I see epic as the same as 10th+ level spells - just more defined. As such, I don't see why epic should be allowed in Faerun if the 10th+ level spells are not allowed. You can, in fact, re-create all those spells - with not that difficult to achieve DCs and costs - in the epic system. I've seen some examples a while back on the WotC boards. So why allow epic in Faerun if you do not allow 10th+ level spells. One view to take - for this thread, not for FR - is that no 10th+ level spells are known. Use what is known of current spell progression (damage progression for evocation spells, for instance, as well as what the effect of metamagic upon a lower level spell would achieve at 10th level) and state that the PCs have the slots but there are no spells to learn for them unless they use meta-magic or expend the cost of creating the spells themselves. Thus they truly become living legends - the Creators of 10th level Magic! You could, as DM, create a few such spells yourself and set up high level quests to be searchs for just a single spell of this level - a single rare remnant of a truly phenomenal prior Age.</blockquote>