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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elrik_DarkFury" data-source="post: 1613263" data-attributes="member: 17192">I have kicked a person some time ago,but after i sincerely tried to better things up and failed.I hightly value dnd and it is more than a simple hobby for me.That has led me many times into extremes against people who "messed" my game.The problem i had and i couldn't bare not talking about, is the determination of some people here to act in a way too blatand and wrong for me.I would "kick" someone out of the game only after everything else had failed and only then.I always think of cheating as an addiction the cheater has to get rid of.We don't kill or shoot drug-addicted persons,is that right?In reverse we have to try to help in any way we can.Try work things out before you take drastic actions.Thats what i suggest.Did u read a previus post about a cheater who agreed to eat his dice in order to make up for his fault and not be kicked out of the game?This suggests:a)that not every cheater deserves to get kickedandb)that the right punishment for cheaters is to make them eat their dices <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> . _______________The Wizard</blockquote>