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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahglock" data-source="post: 4597015" data-attributes="member: 56725">I really don't understand what you are not getting here.  It is perfectly understandable to think in a world where magic exists crazy magic things can happen, and at the same time say when magic is not involved the craziness should be on a somewhat realistic scale.  Games like this can even end up being totally balanced since damage is done with HP.  Martial types can still have maneuvers like death blows, hamstrings, and just hits for huge damage.  Heck just earthdawn it and say all the martial powers are magically charged, and I suspect the realism complaints will disappear.  I actually get the premise of the complaint and as I said earlier my complaint with 4e is it either went to far in breaking suspension of disbelief or not far enough.  They past cheese ball action movies like commando(awesome movie), but we got super powers and not super powers.  If you are going to drop realism in the non magical realm give me super powers.  I'd of been fine if the realism had stayed in the action movie range of things, but it past that point a while back.</blockquote>