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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4945582" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I think the style in which the PHB was written was a bit rough. I found it somewhat difficult to digest and some of the more subtle points will likely escape people who have made only a cursory reading of the book. Most people who only play and don't DM probably aren't aware of many of the trickier implications of things like immediate actions unless they have a significant amount of experience under their belts.</p><p></p><p>You'll always run into people who aren't any good at mastering rules too. Honestly though I don't think 3.x was any easier to grasp or simpler than 4e is. 1e and 2e, yes, the rules were quite a lot simpler mechanically, so it wasn't so much of a problem there. I think 3.x has just been around so long people have forgotten how hard it was to learn. </p><p></p><p>And I agree, a lot of the material in the 4e PHB was written in such a way that there are ambiguities, loopholes, etc. Anyone who played MTG before the 3rd edition rules came out will remember it was the same story. The difference being its a MUCH smaller rules set and was not that big a deal to rewrite. Heck, you got a new copy with every full deck you bought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 4945582, member: 82106"] I think the style in which the PHB was written was a bit rough. I found it somewhat difficult to digest and some of the more subtle points will likely escape people who have made only a cursory reading of the book. Most people who only play and don't DM probably aren't aware of many of the trickier implications of things like immediate actions unless they have a significant amount of experience under their belts. You'll always run into people who aren't any good at mastering rules too. Honestly though I don't think 3.x was any easier to grasp or simpler than 4e is. 1e and 2e, yes, the rules were quite a lot simpler mechanically, so it wasn't so much of a problem there. I think 3.x has just been around so long people have forgotten how hard it was to learn. And I agree, a lot of the material in the 4e PHB was written in such a way that there are ambiguities, loopholes, etc. Anyone who played MTG before the 3rd edition rules came out will remember it was the same story. The difference being its a MUCH smaller rules set and was not that big a deal to rewrite. Heck, you got a new copy with every full deck you bought. [/QUOTE]
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