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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4191768" data-attributes="member: 4937">I have a very simple explanation for this.&nbsp; In almost all of the examples I've read, the DM/players were basically resolving the situation the same way that they would in 3.5 and the fact that it was a 'skill challenge' seemed to me to be a very superficial gloss.&nbsp;&nbsp; What I mean by that is somewhat complicated, and I hope to explain it more fully in a longer post.&nbsp; For this example, it is enough to say that 'search for traps, disarm traps, pick lock on door' is not really a '4e skill challenge-y' approach to opening a trapped door.&nbsp;&nbsp; We do that already, and the above examples basically played out in much the same way that they would in 3e.&nbsp; If 'skill challenge' means anything at all, it can't mean only 'The DM decides whether a particular skill use is appropriate to the situation, and sets a difficulty.'&nbsp; To really understand the problems I'm talking about, you have to look at how the system might otherwise have played out in the above examples.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4191768, member: 4937"] I have a very simple explanation for this. In almost all of the examples I've read, the DM/players were basically resolving the situation the same way that they would in 3.5 and the fact that it was a 'skill challenge' seemed to me to be a very superficial gloss. What I mean by that is somewhat complicated, and I hope to explain it more fully in a longer post. For this example, it is enough to say that 'search for traps, disarm traps, pick lock on door' is not really a '4e skill challenge-y' approach to opening a trapped door. We do that already, and the above examples basically played out in much the same way that they would in 3e. If 'skill challenge' means anything at all, it can't mean only 'The DM decides whether a particular skill use is appropriate to the situation, and sets a difficulty.' To really understand the problems I'm talking about, you have to look at how the system might otherwise have played out in the above examples. [/QUOTE]

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