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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 335782" data-attributes="member: 78">Attempting to use a pair of 2 handed weapons with Monkey Grip seems ratehr ineffective to me.First of all, you lose one of the major benefits of 2 handers - the 1.5 STR mod to damage.&nbsp; Even with something as low as an 18 STR (assuming magical buffs and such), the bonus damage from the extra .5 STR mod is almost the same as the difference between longsword and greatsword damage.&nbsp; In fact, if you assume that the fighter might use an exotic weapon like a bastard sword, then the bonus STR damage from 2 hander style is greater than difference in base damage.&nbsp; Also, the to hit penalties are huge.&nbsp; Using 2 Greatswords means that you're definitely not using a light weapon, so you eat the full -4/-4 hit penalties.&nbsp; And Monkey gripping 2 weapons would result in 2 Monkey grip penalties.&nbsp; So you get lots of attacks with big weapons.&nbsp; However, swinging at -8 will really mess you up.&nbsp; Power Attack would be more helpful.EDIT:Oh yeah, Girallons are size Large.&nbsp; They can weild Greatswords in one hand without Monkey Grip.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 335782, member: 78"] Attempting to use a pair of 2 handed weapons with Monkey Grip seems ratehr ineffective to me. First of all, you lose one of the major benefits of 2 handers - the 1.5 STR mod to damage. Even with something as low as an 18 STR (assuming magical buffs and such), the bonus damage from the extra .5 STR mod is almost the same as the difference between longsword and greatsword damage. In fact, if you assume that the fighter might use an exotic weapon like a bastard sword, then the bonus STR damage from 2 hander style is greater than difference in base damage. Also, the to hit penalties are huge. Using 2 Greatswords means that you're definitely not using a light weapon, so you eat the full -4/-4 hit penalties. And Monkey gripping 2 weapons would result in 2 Monkey grip penalties. So you get lots of attacks with big weapons. However, swinging at -8 will really mess you up. Power Attack would be more helpful. EDIT: Oh yeah, Girallons are size Large. They can weild Greatswords in one hand without Monkey Grip. [/QUOTE]

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