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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2016888" data-attributes="member: 23094">Interesting reading, Thanee.&nbsp; I rule a little differently, the philosophy behind which is based on the way in which a monk's flurry of blows works (i.e., when you make a full attack and flurry, you can intersperse an attack with any special monk weapon you are wielding in place of an unarmed attack).&nbsp; For instance, a monk wielding a quarterstaff and full-attacking can freely choose to use Head 1, Head 2, or Unarmed Strike for any given attack roll.I believe that rule should be more generally applied to all combatants, rather than exist as a separate case.Under my ruling, &quot;fighting this way&quot; from the TWF line of feats refers to &quot;using more than one weapon to gain more attacks in a round than you normally could have.&quot;There are no other rules on handedness.So, if you have a Fighter 11 who has, in hand, a dagger and a rapier, and who has taken the Improved Unarmed Strike Feats, he's got three attacks per round.&nbsp; He is wielding three weapons: a dagger, a rapier, and an unarmed strike.His normal full-round attack is +11 / +6 / +1.&nbsp; When he attacks, he may elect to strike Rapier, Dagger, Unarmed Strike; or Rapier, Rapier, Rapier; or Dagger, Dagger, Unarmed Strike, etc.&nbsp; Each gets 1x Strength bonus (as normal for a single-hand attack).Alternatively, he can use the TWF rules to attack at +9 / +9 / +4 / +4 / -1.&nbsp; Out of any given pairing (+9 / +9, +4 / +4), the second must be made with a different weapon than the first.&nbsp; So, one could attack Rapier / Dagger, Rapier / Unarmed Strike, Rapier, but one couldn't attack Rapier / Rapier, Rapier / Rapier, Unarmed Strike.&nbsp; The second attack in each pairing receives .5 Strength damage.I believe this point of view avoids some unnecessary complications - like, say, a defending weapon only working &quot;when wielded,&quot; which means that an off-hand dagger of defending spends most of its time being useless; you can make an AoO with any weapon available to you - even though it introduces some others.I find this makes more fun - a Fighter with multiple attacks and quickdraw can draw and throw a number of daggers and still menace the wizard with his sword.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2016888, member: 23094"] Interesting reading, Thanee. I rule a little differently, the philosophy behind which is based on the way in which a monk's flurry of blows works (i.e., when you make a full attack and flurry, you can intersperse an attack with any special monk weapon you are wielding in place of an unarmed attack). For instance, a monk wielding a quarterstaff and full-attacking can freely choose to use Head 1, Head 2, or Unarmed Strike for any given attack roll. I believe that rule should be more generally applied to all combatants, rather than exist as a separate case. Under my ruling, "fighting this way" from the TWF line of feats refers to "using more than one weapon to gain more attacks in a round than you normally could have." There are no other rules on handedness. So, if you have a Fighter 11 who has, in hand, a dagger and a rapier, and who has taken the Improved Unarmed Strike Feats, he's got three attacks per round. He is wielding three weapons: a dagger, a rapier, and an unarmed strike. His normal full-round attack is +11 / +6 / +1. When he attacks, he may elect to strike Rapier, Dagger, Unarmed Strike; or Rapier, Rapier, Rapier; or Dagger, Dagger, Unarmed Strike, etc. Each gets 1x Strength bonus (as normal for a single-hand attack). Alternatively, he can use the TWF rules to attack at +9 / +9 / +4 / +4 / -1. Out of any given pairing (+9 / +9, +4 / +4), the second must be made with a different weapon than the first. So, one could attack Rapier / Dagger, Rapier / Unarmed Strike, Rapier, but one couldn't attack Rapier / Rapier, Rapier / Rapier, Unarmed Strike. The second attack in each pairing receives .5 Strength damage. I believe this point of view avoids some unnecessary complications - like, say, a defending weapon only working "when wielded," which means that an off-hand dagger of defending spends most of its time being useless; you can make an AoO with any weapon available to you - even though it introduces some others. I find this makes more fun - a Fighter with multiple attacks and quickdraw can draw and throw a number of daggers and still menace the wizard with his sword. [/QUOTE]

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