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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 4259468" data-attributes="member: 40810">Which is not worth as much in 4e (when you get 16 feats before any bonus feats are counted in) as in 3e (when you get only 7 feats before any bonus feats counted in).Also there is no single feat a 2h fighter can take to get the same AC/Ref as a 1h+shield fighter while the 1h+shield fighter can take a single feat to get the same damage than the 2h fighter.IMO what is missing is a superior 2h weapon to restore the 1h+shield vs. 2h damage/defence ration back to the strictly military level.If you only look at the military weapons the longsword+shield deals less damage than the greatsword while having more defence. That's the expected trade off which makes both options worthwhile.One the superio bastard sword enters the fray the 2h handed option is completly redundant. Here there should be some superior 2h weapon to keep it at the same level than before.So the 1h guy can be happy that he's now doing as much damage as the military 2h guy was but still has his defence and the 2h guy can be happy that he's still doing more damage than the superior 1h guy and that this is good enough to justify his weaker defences.Either that or more of the multiple [W] powers should be made 2h only.I have to agree with the people predicting that Martial Power will offer a solution (I wonder whether through introducing new superior 2h weapons or through special 2h power)</blockquote>