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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8295145" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>The main link between the later Troll and the earlier Jotnar are the Risar. The earlier Jotnar included both the goodlooking Risar who personify certain mountain cliffs, and the hideous Thursar who personify dangerous icy features. Keep in mind, while some Jotnar reached giant size, most of the earlier Jotnar are human size. Where the Risar are in a sense spirits of the surface of the earth who wield magic, they came to roughly equate the British concepts of fairyfolk. The Scandinavian term Troll (literally meaning "enchanter") and the British term Fairy (literally meaning "fate" speaker) became roughly equivalent. Meanwhile the pan-Euro literature, accelerating from the 1300s onward, continued to influence the indigenous worldview.</p><p></p><p>As Troll, the earlier Risar and Thursar intermingled coming to be understood as members of the same Troll family. Thus various animistic personifications could appear in either beautiful versions or hideous versions. Meanwhile ugly ones could correlate with foreign Ogre and beautiful ones correlate with foreign Sidhe.</p><p></p><p>The later beautiful Troll such as Huldrefolk including the river and waterfall animism, are mainly remixes of the Risar mountain animism, but recall the various animistic Jotnar of earlier times.</p><p></p><p>The Dvergar as formations of rock and mud animism mainly merge into Troll. The blending is especially evident when only the earlier Dvergar could petrify in sunlight, but later various kinds of giant Troll could petrify in sunlight as well, sometimes permanently, sometimes temporarily during daytime. It is hard to not imagine a literal hybrid. The Dvergar are originally human size and humanlike in appearance, but German versions of short grotesque Dwarves also intermingled, thus likewise both blended into Troll of various appearances.</p><p></p><p>The Alfar seem to vanish because the indigenous culture equated these animistic sunray spirits with, and merged them into, the skyey Christian angels. Alfar experiences started to become angel experiences.</p><p></p><p>The resurrecting Baldr merged with the Christian concept of Christ, thus vanishes. But other skyey animisms, such as Odinn and Thorr, remain part of the later folklore. These earlier skyey animisms were already dangerous for humans to encounter personally, but the later stories lose sight of their positive natural aspects. Meanwhile, the Christian devil becomes part of the fairytales too, and stories about it and Odinn often seem interchangeable.</p><p></p><p>Generally, Christianity interpreted the Aesir sky animisms to be "gods", similar to German Wotan and so on, thus forbade them as idolatry. Christianity tended to demonize them, except for Baldr. But Christianity didnt really care about − or didnt really know what to do with − other natural traditions of animism. Thus the later Scandinavian experiences of Troll appear to maintain the aboriginal animistic sensibilities of prehistoric Scandanivians, largely intact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8295145, member: 58172"] The main link between the later Troll and the earlier Jotnar are the Risar. The earlier Jotnar included both the goodlooking Risar who personify certain mountain cliffs, and the hideous Thursar who personify dangerous icy features. Keep in mind, while some Jotnar reached giant size, most of the earlier Jotnar are human size. Where the Risar are in a sense spirits of the surface of the earth who wield magic, they came to roughly equate the British concepts of fairyfolk. The Scandinavian term Troll (literally meaning "enchanter") and the British term Fairy (literally meaning "fate" speaker) became roughly equivalent. Meanwhile the pan-Euro literature, accelerating from the 1300s onward, continued to influence the indigenous worldview. As Troll, the earlier Risar and Thursar intermingled coming to be understood as members of the same Troll family. Thus various animistic personifications could appear in either beautiful versions or hideous versions. Meanwhile ugly ones could correlate with foreign Ogre and beautiful ones correlate with foreign Sidhe. The later beautiful Troll such as Huldrefolk including the river and waterfall animism, are mainly remixes of the Risar mountain animism, but recall the various animistic Jotnar of earlier times. The Dvergar as formations of rock and mud animism mainly merge into Troll. The blending is especially evident when only the earlier Dvergar could petrify in sunlight, but later various kinds of giant Troll could petrify in sunlight as well, sometimes permanently, sometimes temporarily during daytime. It is hard to not imagine a literal hybrid. The Dvergar are originally human size and humanlike in appearance, but German versions of short grotesque Dwarves also intermingled, thus likewise both blended into Troll of various appearances. The Alfar seem to vanish because the indigenous culture equated these animistic sunray spirits with, and merged them into, the skyey Christian angels. Alfar experiences started to become angel experiences. The resurrecting Baldr merged with the Christian concept of Christ, thus vanishes. But other skyey animisms, such as Odinn and Thorr, remain part of the later folklore. These earlier skyey animisms were already dangerous for humans to encounter personally, but the later stories lose sight of their positive natural aspects. Meanwhile, the Christian devil becomes part of the fairytales too, and stories about it and Odinn often seem interchangeable. Generally, Christianity interpreted the Aesir sky animisms to be "gods", similar to German Wotan and so on, thus forbade them as idolatry. Christianity tended to demonize them, except for Baldr. But Christianity didnt really care about − or didnt really know what to do with − other natural traditions of animism. Thus the later Scandinavian experiences of Troll appear to maintain the aboriginal animistic sensibilities of prehistoric Scandanivians, largely intact. [/QUOTE]
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