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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8296894" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>As I said, this is either an oversimplification of the motions trees go through on your part, or on the I-Ching's part. Which is fine - people look at things and only see the most surface level function (like a tree growing out). But a tree is by definition a complex system of motions and activities. It's hardly "elemental" once you understand how it works. </p><p></p><p>It should be noted that other systems (such as the PIE religious descendants) have conflated tree with lightning & thunder, while the I-Ching, to my knowledge, links lightning with Metal. All of these systems are observing just a piece of the puzzle of the mystery of life and the universe and everything. And that's fine; they're archaic systems. Science marches on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not that it sounds nuts so much as it's a bit lacking. Forests are also complex systems that grow and shrink to the needs of the environment, but I can't argue with the natural inclination of the life in a forest to expand outwards and colonize to the furthest extent that it can. When it colonises so fast that it consumes other lifeforms and environs to our or their detriments, we call that invasive species or a mismanaged or highly degraded forest environment. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>SOMETIME soil has a Yellow Dragon. But equally as often I've seen the Qilin association with the Yellow Middle. Note that the Qilin (or Kirin) then also forms a triad with the Sea Dragon Kings (Sìhǎi Lóngwáng or Ryujin) and the Heavenly Birds (Fènghuáng or Ho-oh). Japan DOES have Koryu (and adaptation of the Yellow Dragon), but it's rarely referenced because they didn't generally use the I-Ching outside of the syncretic mysticism of the Onmyouji. Or so I understand, I'm probably oversimplifying things.</p><p></p><p>My points really are that we should not oversimplify things. Past editions' Wu Jen and Shugenja oversimplified and appropriated and caricatured to horrific effect. I didn't mind Wu Jen concepts in the Mystic, even if better suited for Druid, but I think trying to have Wu Jen for D&D nostalgia's sake was wrong then and is wrong now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8296894, member: 6803643"] As I said, this is either an oversimplification of the motions trees go through on your part, or on the I-Ching's part. Which is fine - people look at things and only see the most surface level function (like a tree growing out). But a tree is by definition a complex system of motions and activities. It's hardly "elemental" once you understand how it works. It should be noted that other systems (such as the PIE religious descendants) have conflated tree with lightning & thunder, while the I-Ching, to my knowledge, links lightning with Metal. All of these systems are observing just a piece of the puzzle of the mystery of life and the universe and everything. And that's fine; they're archaic systems. Science marches on. It's not that it sounds nuts so much as it's a bit lacking. Forests are also complex systems that grow and shrink to the needs of the environment, but I can't argue with the natural inclination of the life in a forest to expand outwards and colonize to the furthest extent that it can. When it colonises so fast that it consumes other lifeforms and environs to our or their detriments, we call that invasive species or a mismanaged or highly degraded forest environment. ;) SOMETIME soil has a Yellow Dragon. But equally as often I've seen the Qilin association with the Yellow Middle. Note that the Qilin (or Kirin) then also forms a triad with the Sea Dragon Kings (Sìhǎi Lóngwáng or Ryujin) and the Heavenly Birds (Fènghuáng or Ho-oh). Japan DOES have Koryu (and adaptation of the Yellow Dragon), but it's rarely referenced because they didn't generally use the I-Ching outside of the syncretic mysticism of the Onmyouji. Or so I understand, I'm probably oversimplifying things. My points really are that we should not oversimplify things. Past editions' Wu Jen and Shugenja oversimplified and appropriated and caricatured to horrific effect. I didn't mind Wu Jen concepts in the Mystic, even if better suited for Druid, but I think trying to have Wu Jen for D&D nostalgia's sake was wrong then and is wrong now. [/QUOTE]
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