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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SylverFlame" data-source="post: 794589" data-attributes="member: 8423">First of all, I like what you guys have. Language generally gets overlooked. My PC's in 2e hated my guts when they realized I was using languages and none of them took orc. Fun to see them starting hacking up the guys that came to give them food and water (they were lost and starving at the time) and show them how they could by-pass an entire dungeon that eventually claimed the lives of 2/5's of the group. After I revealed this to them I had to dodge dice for a week. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> As for die_Kluge's system, I do think it is a little harsh. For anyone other than a Bard you have to be level 5 before you can yell to the elf in his own language about the orc axe that's about to take off his head. That's a little harsh if you ask me. (This, of course, assumes cross-class and combat situations where you CANNOT take 10 due to the stressful situation).What if you halfed the numbers? 5 ranks for fluent and 10 for master?As for die_Kluge's comment on Shakespeare being a rank 20: First, Shakespeare was considered a "fluffy writter" for many years (think action movie stuff for the present day) and it was not until he got noticed by the King of England that he was considered "Great"; as for Shaky-boys vocabulary abilities, he made up many of the words (like crocodile) and he mostly used metaphor (ie. "the beast with two backs" to describe Othello and Desdemona having sex in "Othello"). Besides this, the class name Bard is a reference to Bill's nickname of The Bard. Sorry for the English lesson, gotta use the degree somehow....</blockquote>

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