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<blockquote data-quote="Azgulor" data-source="post: 4091010" data-attributes="member: 14291">Right, cause holy warriors wouldn't think to train to use their shield as a weapon.&nbsp; Also, why is the answer to every criticism of a 4e rule/mechanic to make a house rule?&nbsp; The pro-4e crowd are usually quick to dismiss house-rules that correct &quot;problems&quot; in 3.x.&nbsp; So house rules are ok when it supports your position?C'mon.&nbsp; Ok, you're a 4e fan, more power to you.&nbsp; The OP's post wasn't arbitrarily bashing 4e.&nbsp; He cited that he liked aspects of it and gave detail about what he didn't like.And this particular criticism is one of my biggest concerns regarding 4e.&nbsp; In 3e, feats reflected specialized training.&nbsp; If a bonus feat from your class, your options were usually limited, but your level-related bonus feats would let you pick from the fighter list if you were a wizard for example.&nbsp; In 4e, it seems that characters MAY be arbitrarily restricted on what they can or can't do just because of their class.&nbsp; For supernatural powers, I can see that.&nbsp; For mundane actions, not so much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Azgulor, post: 4091010, member: 14291"] Right, cause holy warriors wouldn't think to train to use their shield as a weapon. Also, why is the answer to every criticism of a 4e rule/mechanic to make a house rule? The pro-4e crowd are usually quick to dismiss house-rules that correct "problems" in 3.x. So house rules are ok when it supports your position? C'mon. Ok, you're a 4e fan, more power to you. The OP's post wasn't arbitrarily bashing 4e. He cited that he liked aspects of it and gave detail about what he didn't like. And this particular criticism is one of my biggest concerns regarding 4e. In 3e, feats reflected specialized training. If a bonus feat from your class, your options were usually limited, but your level-related bonus feats would let you pick from the fighter list if you were a wizard for example. In 4e, it seems that characters MAY be arbitrarily restricted on what they can or can't do just because of their class. For supernatural powers, I can see that. For mundane actions, not so much. [/QUOTE]

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