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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4915484" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Well, we seem to be on the same page (in that the Dragon can't avoid an OA; but the Shaman can't have his SC actually stop the fleeing monster - regardless of its movement mode, unless it gets stuck in something like a 5 foot narrow corridor of course)</p><p></p><p>So we agree the SC can be conjured in the path of even a flying monster then.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I'm completely perplexed. I guess you're talking about "a fight against a flying monster" separately from the actual advice on aerial combat here?</p><p></p><p>Because I can't imagine you're telling me a Dragon isn't supposed to fly around?</p><p></p><p>The Tactics section of Dragons explicitly say they start by softening up ground foes with fly-by attacks and dragon breath.</p><p></p><p>I am a strong believe in how a completely melee-based party SHOULD be hosed when they encounter a flying monster.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Regardless of this; getting simple answers to really basic questions like "can my SC move upwards its speed, or do I need to *plop*plop* it using two minor actions" would still be nice.</p><p></p><p>I'm the DM and I got questions like this straight away. Perhaps you haven't had a Shaman player yet? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Answers like "yes, go ahead" and "no, you can't do that" are both perfectly acceptable.</p><p></p><p>Surely you see why an answer like "don't bother; that's not important" doesn't fly when a player asks his DM?</p><p></p><p></p><p>We must have misunderstood each other. You're basically saying "I'm a DM who sometimes lets the monsters attack the SC" which is a perfectly fine answer. I do that too!</p><p></p><p>I was just fishing for a discussion on why it seems like the book should tell you this, because it feels like a SC that never gets "needlessly" attacked is a SC not used to its full potential. Sure its fine to have the Shaman work for it; but if the monsters *never* go for the "bait" (the SC) - only attacking when they absolutely must - it seems a part of the class build gets lost, making the class less appealing to play...</p><p></p><p>Sorry if this is repetition to you - I must then have missed the spot where you acknowledged this specific concern. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Thx,</p><p>CZ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 4915484, member: 12731"] Well, we seem to be on the same page (in that the Dragon can't avoid an OA; but the Shaman can't have his SC actually stop the fleeing monster - regardless of its movement mode, unless it gets stuck in something like a 5 foot narrow corridor of course) So we agree the SC can be conjured in the path of even a flying monster then. Now I'm completely perplexed. I guess you're talking about "a fight against a flying monster" separately from the actual advice on aerial combat here? Because I can't imagine you're telling me a Dragon isn't supposed to fly around? The Tactics section of Dragons explicitly say they start by softening up ground foes with fly-by attacks and dragon breath. I am a strong believe in how a completely melee-based party SHOULD be hosed when they encounter a flying monster. Regardless of this; getting simple answers to really basic questions like "can my SC move upwards its speed, or do I need to *plop*plop* it using two minor actions" would still be nice. I'm the DM and I got questions like this straight away. Perhaps you haven't had a Shaman player yet? :) Answers like "yes, go ahead" and "no, you can't do that" are both perfectly acceptable. Surely you see why an answer like "don't bother; that's not important" doesn't fly when a player asks his DM? We must have misunderstood each other. You're basically saying "I'm a DM who sometimes lets the monsters attack the SC" which is a perfectly fine answer. I do that too! I was just fishing for a discussion on why it seems like the book should tell you this, because it feels like a SC that never gets "needlessly" attacked is a SC not used to its full potential. Sure its fine to have the Shaman work for it; but if the monsters *never* go for the "bait" (the SC) - only attacking when they absolutely must - it seems a part of the class build gets lost, making the class less appealing to play... Sorry if this is repetition to you - I must then have missed the spot where you acknowledged this specific concern. :) Thx, CZ [/QUOTE]
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