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<blockquote data-quote="Cavalorn" data-source="post: 2299679" data-attributes="member: 15377"><p>Taken in the abstract, it certainly looks like hairsplitting. However, the intent is a laudable one. Designers and proofreaders want to get things <em>right</em>, because however minor an error may be, it's something a consumer has a right to complain about. Look at the recent review of a Mongoose product in which the errors in monster design were pointed out. Nobody wants to see that happen to their work.</p><p></p><p>The process of designing a monster isn't so much simulating its birth at 1 HD and advancing it - it's creating it according to a linear progression and then plonking it into the world fully formed. The construction from the ground up takes place on the DM's divine workbench, not with the dolphin's growth from dolphin baby into troubled adolescent dolphin.</p><p></p><p>Man-thing is quite right when he says that he could create a 33 HD Outsider with nothing but epic feats (and the pre-req regular feats). He's also right when he says that dead-end feats seem to have been taken as if the creature was advancing like a character, not just to qualify for later feats.</p><p></p><p>So, should dolphins have weapon finesse? Technically, no. Is it a big deal? Not in itself, but the implications are interesting. Frankly, I think the problem here is with the pre-req for the feat. A BAB of +1 doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. Maybe 'BAB +1 <em>or</em> Medium size or smaller' would make more sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cavalorn, post: 2299679, member: 15377"] Taken in the abstract, it certainly looks like hairsplitting. However, the intent is a laudable one. Designers and proofreaders want to get things [i]right[/i], because however minor an error may be, it's something a consumer has a right to complain about. Look at the recent review of a Mongoose product in which the errors in monster design were pointed out. Nobody wants to see that happen to their work. The process of designing a monster isn't so much simulating its birth at 1 HD and advancing it - it's creating it according to a linear progression and then plonking it into the world fully formed. The construction from the ground up takes place on the DM's divine workbench, not with the dolphin's growth from dolphin baby into troubled adolescent dolphin. Man-thing is quite right when he says that he could create a 33 HD Outsider with nothing but epic feats (and the pre-req regular feats). He's also right when he says that dead-end feats seem to have been taken as if the creature was advancing like a character, not just to qualify for later feats. So, should dolphins have weapon finesse? Technically, no. Is it a big deal? Not in itself, but the implications are interesting. Frankly, I think the problem here is with the pre-req for the feat. A BAB of +1 doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. Maybe 'BAB +1 [i]or[/i] Medium size or smaller' would make more sense. [/QUOTE]
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