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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr Bunsen Honeydew" data-source="post: 544835" data-attributes="member: 9338">Once again I offer a post off the alt.fan.pratchett group, this time from "Diane L." [the circumstances: alt.fan.tolkien had crossposted a quote (taken out of context) by Terry Pratchett, launching a number of flames and trolls both from and at both groups. "Flame of the West" was one of the main instigators  from AFT, "Rocky" a quick-tempered denizen of AFP. I've included the whole post, because it's pretty funnny]. The main thrust of the post (is tolkien evil?) happens about halfway down. Enjoy.The seas boiled, the skies fell, and Diane L. said:> "Flame of the West" <jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com> wrote in message news:3D5BC8DB.2A3CCE6F@erols.com...>> "Diane L." wrote:>>>>> Rocky was referring to himself. Being, as he is, well struck in years, and a personal friend of Terry Pratchett.>>>> That foul-mouthed troll is a personal friend of Pratchett??!>> Foul-mouthed? I've heard (and read) much worse, but I suppose if you're very easily offended you might make that one stick."Oooh!  Ooooh!  Miss!  *He* said the *F-word*!">> Troll? You're on shakier ground here, unless you're using the word in the juvenile sense of 'anyone who doesn't agree with me'.Along with the time-honoured definition of "fascist" - "anyone who says that I can't do exactly what I please".>Unless you've seen Rocky starting a cross-posted thread to aft accusing Tolkien of various wrongdoings based on very tenuous evidence?Who cares?  Tolkien was really a mole planted by the Nazis anyway.  A real professor of English would never have slipped on the plural of "dwarf" - his cover begins to slip already –and dwarfs who love gold are an invention of German folklore.Then, The Hobbit, with its theme of the bucolic Hobbit (read: Englishman) joining with the dwarfs (read: Germans) to fight a monster in the east (read: Russia, or possibly the annexation of the Balkans, where dragons are common in heraldry).  In the west they encounter some trolls easily defeated by taking advantage of their factionalisation and decadent love of food (read: the French), and in the east they find dark-skinned subhuman creatures (Blacks), effeminate elves (gays), and a culture of money grabbing men who interfere with the dwarfs quest to regain their true place in the world (Jews).  Clearly, The Hobbit is Nazi propaganda of the most insidious kind,intended to turn British children into Mosleyites.The Lord of the Rings follows on from this, as the truly wise join with Sauron/Hitler and the armies of men are powerless against him.  This is especially evil in light of the fact that JRRT was sending chapters of this Hitlerian fable to his own son in the forces during the war.  When Hitler was defeated, however, Tolkien took the opportunity to butter his bread on both sides by writing a more Allied-friendly ending.Is there no end to Tolkien's despicable swastika-waving evil?--"Pack it in, you're acting like kids.""Well, he started it!"</blockquote>

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