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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Giltonio_Santos" data-source="post: 8018406" data-attributes="member: 36874">To add something I've not talked about in the two previous threads: I believe a huge part of D&D's appeal, at least for me and my fellow players (and I play/run D&D in a very inclusive environment, not that it matters for the sake of this discussion), rests on the ability to bring to our favorite hobby - not emulate, properly, because D&D does it pretty badly - the tales of Tolkien, Howard, LeGuin*, and many others who could be seen as "problematic" in the current environment.I see myself strongly in the middle of the way for this discussion because I don't want anyone to feel excluded, but I don't believe what means and what doesn't mean to exclude someone can rest exclusively on how that person feels; there must be space for reasonable dialog, and we must move from there. We moved away from terrible tropes such as the chainmail bikini and the damsel in distress through reasonable discussion. D&D art used to depict drows as black elves, it was reasonable discussion that allowed us to move forward on that.On a subjective level, anybody is allowed to be offended by anything. The discussion about what must leave the game because it's preventing some people from enjoying it must be grounded on stronger reasons.*Yeah, even LeGuin. Don't forget she's a white woman writing about a black protagonist.</blockquote>