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<blockquote data-quote="ZeshinX" data-source="post: 8019345" data-attributes="member: 6793656"><p>To me, that is seeking the nuance of any subject matter, you merely stated it in a radically more eloquent way (and boy howdy did that give me a tingly sense of 'I just read something awesome'). <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>For me, it's the current crux of a lot of the discussions now taking place (though the discussions are indeed a reward all their own). Removal of anything that makes one feel icky or revolted or incredulous is an understandable desire that I think all have had and continue to have in life. The risk I see, is that if it is removed and avoided, lost is the opportunity to expand and grow. As you pointed out with Oriental Adventures, I found the same to be true for me. I knew that what was present in Oriental Adventures was a fantastical presentation, drawing heavily from various Asian cultural histories, folklore and myths. I desired to learn more about what inspired them, the actual myths and legends and history of those actual nations and cultures. It was a rewarding experience.</p><p></p><p>The flip side is also, unfortunately, true. That one can take such things and pervert them and take away a less enlightened view of whatever cultures inspired the fantastical presentations, or even worse, learn more about the inspirations and twist and distort it to support whatever awful and hateful ideology they want to put into the (fictional or real) world regarding those cultures.</p><p></p><p>Then of course you have every little nuanced element in between, intentional or not.</p><p></p><p>That is the inherent risk of just being alive and part of the human community. I don't oppose the changes that are coming, but I do wonder if what we will lose will balance what is gained. Presently I think it will be more damaging, long term....but only time can answer that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZeshinX, post: 8019345, member: 6793656"] To me, that is seeking the nuance of any subject matter, you merely stated it in a radically more eloquent way (and boy howdy did that give me a tingly sense of 'I just read something awesome'). ;) For me, it's the current crux of a lot of the discussions now taking place (though the discussions are indeed a reward all their own). Removal of anything that makes one feel icky or revolted or incredulous is an understandable desire that I think all have had and continue to have in life. The risk I see, is that if it is removed and avoided, lost is the opportunity to expand and grow. As you pointed out with Oriental Adventures, I found the same to be true for me. I knew that what was present in Oriental Adventures was a fantastical presentation, drawing heavily from various Asian cultural histories, folklore and myths. I desired to learn more about what inspired them, the actual myths and legends and history of those actual nations and cultures. It was a rewarding experience. The flip side is also, unfortunately, true. That one can take such things and pervert them and take away a less enlightened view of whatever cultures inspired the fantastical presentations, or even worse, learn more about the inspirations and twist and distort it to support whatever awful and hateful ideology they want to put into the (fictional or real) world regarding those cultures. Then of course you have every little nuanced element in between, intentional or not. That is the inherent risk of just being alive and part of the human community. I don't oppose the changes that are coming, but I do wonder if what we will lose will balance what is gained. Presently I think it will be more damaging, long term....but only time can answer that. [/QUOTE]
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