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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8020469" data-attributes="member: 22779">Then, if you're right, and he is talking about that, then why bring it up at all?&nbsp; No one is discussing things that are so inoffensive offending people.&nbsp; You are basically just dismissing people's concerns by labeling them so inoffensive that no one should be bothered.&nbsp; But, that's not what's going on here. It's been repeatedly demonstrated that the language surrounding orcs in D&amp;D mirrors the language used to dehumanize various people's at various points in history.&nbsp; You're simply brushing that away by claiming that it's &quot;not offensive&quot;.&nbsp; People are FLAT OUT TELLING YOU that it's offensive.&nbsp; The people about whom these racist phrases were used to describe are TELLING YOU that these are problematic.&nbsp; Why do you feel that you are in such a position that you can simply say, &quot;No, these aren't racist.&nbsp; You're wrong and your feelings are wrong.&quot; ?&nbsp; Again, real people are telling you that the language used is making them uncomfortable and fell unwelcome in the hobby.&nbsp; What do you do?&nbsp; Do you stick to your guns and tell them that their feelings are not real and they're just making it all up and they should just suck it up, or do you actually listen to them and change the wording?No more hypotheticals.&nbsp; No more &quot;Whatabout?&quot; Answer the question.&nbsp; People are telling you, flat out, that this language makes them uncomfortable and feel unwelcome.&nbsp; What are you going to do about it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8020469, member: 22779"] Then, if you're right, and he is talking about that, then why bring it up at all? No one is discussing things that are so inoffensive offending people. You are basically just dismissing people's concerns by labeling them so inoffensive that no one should be bothered. But, that's not what's going on here. It's been repeatedly demonstrated that the language surrounding orcs in D&D mirrors the language used to dehumanize various people's at various points in history. You're simply brushing that away by claiming that it's "not offensive". People are FLAT OUT TELLING YOU that it's offensive. The people about whom these racist phrases were used to describe are TELLING YOU that these are problematic. Why do you feel that you are in such a position that you can simply say, "No, these aren't racist. You're wrong and your feelings are wrong." ? Again, real people are telling you that the language used is making them uncomfortable and fell unwelcome in the hobby. What do you do? Do you stick to your guns and tell them that their feelings are not real and they're just making it all up and they should just suck it up, or do you actually listen to them and change the wording? No more hypotheticals. No more "Whatabout?" Answer the question. People are telling you, flat out, that this language makes them uncomfortable and feel unwelcome. What are you going to do about it? [/QUOTE]

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