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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8021517" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Okay, dipping a toe back in just to clear up a misconception.</p><p></p><p>The Satanic Panic wasn't about Christian groups being <em>offended</em>. It wasn't like the game was painting Christian groups in an uncharitable light somehow. The Satanic Panic was based on Christian groups trying to enforce their beliefs on others based on a completely misguided interpretation of the game. </p><p></p><p>But, it was never about offending Christians. Christian groups were not being pushed out of the hobby by offensive descriptions in the game. Nor, I would point out, were the Christian groups involved in the Satanic Panic being enslaved, murdered or treated as if they were not human by the cultures of the time. Granted, Christian groups have been persecuted. I don't deny that. But, the Satanic Panic had nothing to do with Christian persecution.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, the descriptions of orcs in the game do unfortunately mirror racist screeds of the 19th and 20th century that were used to dehumanize and justify all sorts of horrible actions.</p><p></p><p>Therein lies the primary difference. The whole "whatabout fundie Christians?" sidebar is yet another red herring to avoid actually discussing the issue.</p><p></p><p>But, hey, feel free to go back to your regularly scheduled tail chasing.</p><p></p><p>[USER=59082]@Mercurius[/USER] , I was impressed by the way when you realized that the changes are actually quite minor, can be done with a minimum of fuss and really, really won't impact anyone else at all. Well done you. Kudos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8021517, member: 22779"] Okay, dipping a toe back in just to clear up a misconception. The Satanic Panic wasn't about Christian groups being [I]offended[/I]. It wasn't like the game was painting Christian groups in an uncharitable light somehow. The Satanic Panic was based on Christian groups trying to enforce their beliefs on others based on a completely misguided interpretation of the game. But, it was never about offending Christians. Christian groups were not being pushed out of the hobby by offensive descriptions in the game. Nor, I would point out, were the Christian groups involved in the Satanic Panic being enslaved, murdered or treated as if they were not human by the cultures of the time. Granted, Christian groups have been persecuted. I don't deny that. But, the Satanic Panic had nothing to do with Christian persecution. OTOH, the descriptions of orcs in the game do unfortunately mirror racist screeds of the 19th and 20th century that were used to dehumanize and justify all sorts of horrible actions. Therein lies the primary difference. The whole "whatabout fundie Christians?" sidebar is yet another red herring to avoid actually discussing the issue. But, hey, feel free to go back to your regularly scheduled tail chasing. [USER=59082]@Mercurius[/USER] , I was impressed by the way when you realized that the changes are actually quite minor, can be done with a minimum of fuss and really, really won't impact anyone else at all. Well done you. Kudos. [/QUOTE]
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