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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 8021565" data-attributes="member: 463">3e changed orcs from being human sized LE minions of evil using civilised but dirty gear, tactics etc to being large, strong CE savage barbarians. Old orcs used crossbows and polearms, WotC orcs use great axes and javelins. WotC orcs still bear no resemblance to any specific racist stereotypes (not even of Celts or Vikings), but can be vaguely 'evocative of colonialist tropes' in a way Gygaxian orcs aren't. Drow likewise don't evoke any real world racist stereotypes but do clearly evoke male fears of female power, especially sexual power, with the female spider who devours the male after mating. And some late 80s Drow art looks a bit like Tina Turner - any sane person thinks Tina Turner is awesome <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> but there is a tenuous link there.By contrast the Vistani are a clear fantasy analogue of Roma gypsies so concerns about their depiction seem more grounded to me. Certainly no real world ethny should ever be labelled "always Chaotic Evil".</blockquote>