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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8021916" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Are you really serious?If someone comes and say that orcs are depicted as black I would like see proof of his reasoning in the texts. I would go on and show him that this behavior has been in many cultures and unfortunately, in a lot of "white" cultures too. Does this mean that orcs are representative of white people? or Asian? or Cri? Shoshone? Aztec? Inca? Eurasian? Nope. Orcs are orcs. Instead of accepting a missperception as a truth, I would truly try to explain that it is not a caricature of black people or any other type of people or culture for that matter. Just like I explained, decades ago, to religious people in my area, that D&D was not promoting satanism.This is not what is happening here. We take these accusations at face value and we act on it immediately. Our justice system presumes that you are innocent until proven guilty. I claim the same for the orcs. They certainly do not want to be compared to puny humans, no matter their color. Comparing this to the black face... Read my other posts, I have friends that are victims of racism and I did and will continue to  step forward to help them IRL. Fight racism (and all the other ism) in the real world. This is where it matters.WotC is acting fast in light of the social context that we know. It is sad that they do so. More thougths on the matter should have been considered and weighted.D&D has always been an inclusive game. Always. Accusing it of being uninclusive is inconceivable in my mind. Nowhere have I seen a good solid argument that proves without interpretation that this is the case (of being uninclusive). The game is not racist, sexist, homophobic or any other ism and obe that some would like to put in it.PS: Save for the Vistani, these were clearly out of place. The author only gave bad depiction of them and did not even tried to emphasis the good points of their society. This time around, they were clearly inspired by only one culture and not a mic mac of many. It was a really bad move in my eyes and in the eyes of many others. It will be a good thing if they change them. I did.Edit: Added (of being uninclusive) in the third sentence of the last paragraph for clarity.</blockquote>

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