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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8023230" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>We might have come to an agreement, and I hope others do as well, but I suspect the sticking point will be around word usage for the "worst orcs." I think that if they are within a broader context, the language doesn't matter as much because it is just descriptive language to a type of orc (e.g. "the cult of Gruumsh")--and it is words that can be applied to any race/species (i.e. brutish and evil humans). At that point, I don't know what to say to those hypothetical people.</p><p></p><p>On a side note, an interesting campaign idea that just came to mind--specific to a world, of course--is to take something from the Irda/Ogre thing in Dragonlance, and posit a primordial orcish race akin to "shamanic Neanderthals," that were eventually taken over by the cult of Gruumsh, who went about killing off the non-Gruumshians. The PCs discover this, and figure out that there is actually a small surviving group of the original orcs, who are in hiding but in danger of being found by the "Gruumshian Slayers." If one or more of the PCs is an orc or half-orc, it makes for an interesting quest to protect and/or free the non-Gruumshians.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8023230, member: 59082"] We might have come to an agreement, and I hope others do as well, but I suspect the sticking point will be around word usage for the "worst orcs." I think that if they are within a broader context, the language doesn't matter as much because it is just descriptive language to a type of orc (e.g. "the cult of Gruumsh")--and it is words that can be applied to any race/species (i.e. brutish and evil humans). At that point, I don't know what to say to those hypothetical people. On a side note, an interesting campaign idea that just came to mind--specific to a world, of course--is to take something from the Irda/Ogre thing in Dragonlance, and posit a primordial orcish race akin to "shamanic Neanderthals," that were eventually taken over by the cult of Gruumsh, who went about killing off the non-Gruumshians. The PCs discover this, and figure out that there is actually a small surviving group of the original orcs, who are in hiding but in danger of being found by the "Gruumshian Slayers." If one or more of the PCs is an orc or half-orc, it makes for an interesting quest to protect and/or free the non-Gruumshians. [/QUOTE]
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