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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8023343" data-attributes="member: 7023887">If you seriously believe this, there's nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. At this point, I think you'll just say anything to win/perpetuate the argument.Enslaving people psionically while also looking like an obese murder-squid typically doesn't make you a person.It makes you more alien, which makes you less of a person.You are the only person I know of that thinks that literal immortality doesn't mean that they're immortal. Sure, they can die, but it's more of an annoyance. To people, death normally isn't just annoying. Fiends and other creatures that respawn after death typically aren't considered people. In any lore, can you point to something that makes aboleths happy or grateful? No, they're aliens and have different emotions. Sure, sociopaths are people, but if your lack of emotions makes you murder people, you're generally not considered a person. Serial killers aren't called people, are they? They're not members of our society, they're monsters. Sex produces offspring that you have emotional connections to. There are no signs of aboleths having emotional connections with their children. It means that they don't have true societies, which is required to be called a person. Honeybees aren't considered people, and they have societies.</blockquote>