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<blockquote data-quote="Valchrys" data-source="post: 8023708" data-attributes="member: 7025262"><p>Dragons have an interesting model that could be useful in creating another angle in understanding the problem with orcs. On reading this post, I wondered why dragons can't change their color. The answer, ofc, is that D&D is founded on nature over nurture and this notion is cemented in the various racial gods. But dragons have two counterweight gods, Tiamat and Bahamut. Why couldn't the dragon's color not correspond to their chosen god? This keeps the lore intact while letting dragons have a choice. But dragons aren't the problem, I know.</p><p></p><p>This same idea works for Drow. An elf chooses to be a high (or whatever) elf or chooses to be a Drow because they have counter weight gods, Lolth and Corellon. It doesn't fix the black skin but it keeps the lore intact, I think. This also fits with what makes an elf an elf which is that they can choose to be whatever they want, whenever they want.</p><p></p><p>Orcs don't have counter weight gods in the default setting. Luthic doesn't counter Gruumsh. She would need to a be a stronger voice but she could be a starting point to giving orcs meaningful choices. Other people have talked about changing gods and I'm not saying anything new. But I thought looking at the problem from the angle of dragons might be helpful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Valchrys, post: 8023708, member: 7025262"] Dragons have an interesting model that could be useful in creating another angle in understanding the problem with orcs. On reading this post, I wondered why dragons can't change their color. The answer, ofc, is that D&D is founded on nature over nurture and this notion is cemented in the various racial gods. But dragons have two counterweight gods, Tiamat and Bahamut. Why couldn't the dragon's color not correspond to their chosen god? This keeps the lore intact while letting dragons have a choice. But dragons aren't the problem, I know. This same idea works for Drow. An elf chooses to be a high (or whatever) elf or chooses to be a Drow because they have counter weight gods, Lolth and Corellon. It doesn't fix the black skin but it keeps the lore intact, I think. This also fits with what makes an elf an elf which is that they can choose to be whatever they want, whenever they want. Orcs don't have counter weight gods in the default setting. Luthic doesn't counter Gruumsh. She would need to a be a stronger voice but she could be a starting point to giving orcs meaningful choices. Other people have talked about changing gods and I'm not saying anything new. But I thought looking at the problem from the angle of dragons might be helpful. [/QUOTE]
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