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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8025198" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Huh. Almost like how I think people read things into the majority of the descriptions of orcs in the MM that I don't see. Also similar to how I've never had a black player complain about the depiction of orcs. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /> </p><p></p><p>But if you care (I'm sure it's not going to make a difference) I grabbed a copy of Baker's thoughts on orcs and highlighted some things.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER]</p><p>While they aren’t as directly animalistic as shifters, I see orcs as a <strong>very primal </strong>race. They’re <strong>extremely passionate and emotional</strong>; this <strong>can manifest as aggression or rage,</strong> but it’s <strong>just as strong </strong>when it comes to <strong>loyalty, affection and faith</strong>. They <strong>believe in things intensely</strong>. This led to them being the first druids on Khorvaire and having one of the oldest sects of the Silver Flame – the Ghaash’kala guardians of the Demon Wastes. But they’re also highly individualistic… <strong>leaning more towards chaos</strong> than law. They are very effective in small tribes or family groups, where they all know each other and are working together… but they <strong>aren’t good with </strong>faceless <strong>authority</strong>, blind <strong>obedience</strong>, or<strong> being part of a huge infrastructure</strong>. This is one of the main reasons the orcs never dominated Khorvaire. They are barbarians by nature. They have <strong>no innate desire to build </strong>vast cities or organize huge armies; the small tribe is what they are comfortable with. This led to their being pushed into the fringes of Khorvaire by the Dhakaani goblins, and that’s where this linger to this day. If the goblins are like ants or wasps, orcs are like wolves: fierce, loyal to their pack, but not inclined to form into a massive legion of wolves and conquer the world.</p><p></p><p>In playing an orc – whether as a player or DM – I’d <strong>emphasize </strong>this primal and <strong>passionate nature</strong>. They feel emotions strongly, and are <strong>quick to anger but equally quick to celebrate</strong>. They believe things deeply, and can be <strong>very spiritual</strong>. As an orc, you’re loyal to your pack – whether that’s your family or your adventuring companions – and quick to distrust massive, faceless forces and invisible authority. This may seem at odds with the idea of strong faith, but they’re equally distrustful of monolithic organized religions. The Ghaash’kala are one of the oldest sects of the Silver Flame, but they operate in small clans and have never formed the sort of political hierarchy that you see in the Church of the Silver Flame. So as an orc, follow your heart; explore your faith; be true to your friends and suspicious of those who would tell you what to do.</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>If I just took the words I bolded I'm sure you could match it up to some stereotypes. But maybe if I keep repeating it and then saying "I've already proven..." it will make a difference? No?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8025198, member: 6801845"] Huh. Almost like how I think people read things into the majority of the descriptions of orcs in the MM that I don't see. Also similar to how I've never had a black player complain about the depiction of orcs. :unsure: But if you care (I'm sure it's not going to make a difference) I grabbed a copy of Baker's thoughts on orcs and highlighted some things. [SPOILER] While they aren’t as directly animalistic as shifters, I see orcs as a [B]very primal [/B]race. They’re [B]extremely passionate and emotional[/B]; this [B]can manifest as aggression or rage,[/B] but it’s [B]just as strong [/B]when it comes to [B]loyalty, affection and faith[/B]. They [B]believe in things intensely[/B]. This led to them being the first druids on Khorvaire and having one of the oldest sects of the Silver Flame – the Ghaash’kala guardians of the Demon Wastes. But they’re also highly individualistic… [B]leaning more towards chaos[/B] than law. They are very effective in small tribes or family groups, where they all know each other and are working together… but they [B]aren’t good with [/B]faceless [B]authority[/B], blind [B]obedience[/B], or[B] being part of a huge infrastructure[/B]. This is one of the main reasons the orcs never dominated Khorvaire. They are barbarians by nature. They have [B]no innate desire to build [/B]vast cities or organize huge armies; the small tribe is what they are comfortable with. This led to their being pushed into the fringes of Khorvaire by the Dhakaani goblins, and that’s where this linger to this day. If the goblins are like ants or wasps, orcs are like wolves: fierce, loyal to their pack, but not inclined to form into a massive legion of wolves and conquer the world. In playing an orc – whether as a player or DM – I’d [B]emphasize [/B]this primal and [B]passionate nature[/B]. They feel emotions strongly, and are [B]quick to anger but equally quick to celebrate[/B]. They believe things deeply, and can be [B]very spiritual[/B]. As an orc, you’re loyal to your pack – whether that’s your family or your adventuring companions – and quick to distrust massive, faceless forces and invisible authority. This may seem at odds with the idea of strong faith, but they’re equally distrustful of monolithic organized religions. The Ghaash’kala are one of the oldest sects of the Silver Flame, but they operate in small clans and have never formed the sort of political hierarchy that you see in the Church of the Silver Flame. So as an orc, follow your heart; explore your faith; be true to your friends and suspicious of those who would tell you what to do. [/SPOILER] If I just took the words I bolded I'm sure you could match it up to some stereotypes. But maybe if I keep repeating it and then saying "I've already proven..." it will make a difference? No? [/QUOTE]
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