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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8027244" data-attributes="member: 6901101">I agree with everything you say except that it is a problem.First, it is not my story. It is lore. It is a make believe story in a make believe world, with make believe characters, and make believe magic, and make believe cultures, that worship make believe gods. It is not mine. Second, it is a fantasy trope; a characteristic of dwarves, among many fantasy races: elves being haughty and egotistical might have come to the same conclusion; githyanki being a caste society and with the "stronger pillage the weak" mentality would certainly come to the same conclusion; even a modron might view it as a parasite and thus resort to exile. I realize that only one of those are "good." But threw in the evil and neutral to stop the debate from veering down that road.Here is what you wrote: "And again, having a character say this to another character isn't wrong, but having it presented from a good character, one meant to embody the concepts of goodness, and it be a proper chastisement, not them being cruel or extreme but being reasonable, that is ugly and a problem with your story." I italicized the part I agree with. There should be two sides represented. Sounds like a good idea for a novel to tell you the truth. A Dwarven sect that wants to defend their pre-duergar brothers from being outcasts, and thus come to be rebels against the other dwarves. It should be there. And you are right, it is ugly. But it's not a problem (and again, not my story). It is called conflict. Many conflicts in fantasy are ugly. That is what makes them a conflict. I mean the definition of conflict in a story is the struggle between opposing forces. Some of those forces might be good, but doing the wrong thing. Some might be bad but doing the wrong thing. The devils are keeping the demons at bay and from destroying the world. It doesn't make them good. So again, I agree. But, maybe if you can explain to me why it's a problem I promise I will listen, keep an open mind, and try to understand.   And please, I am asking nicely (and not just you), please stop using real life analogies. It doesn't fit. I would probably worship Mother Theresa if I saw her cast raise dead or cure critical wounds. But she can't. So she is a person in real life meant to be an inspiration to millions. That's it. There is no D&D cross-reference for her. In my humble opinion.</blockquote>

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