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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 8027791" data-attributes="member: 3987">So we can't use words like... what?aggressive, violent, savage, primitiveThese words seem to cause offense when used to describe Orcs, but exactly the same words can and are used for Ogres and Trolls without causing an issue.Or is it just because these words combined with orcs description of low forehead, prominent teeth both of which illustrations of ogres often show, but actually don't appear in the description but do for orcs (looking back through several editions). They are both terms that have been used in racist descriptions in the past.In which case it seems to me at least from what we have been hearing from WotC they are tackling the wrong end of the problem. Eberron book has actually no mention of how orcs appear, so one has to assume they look the same and have the same racists signifiers. They are still "aggressive", still "primal" still basically chaotic.Seems to me it doesn't solve the issue if you still have a description of orcs that have those racist racial signifiers, and the description of orcs isn't what they seem to be changing.</blockquote>