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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 8027850" data-attributes="member: 15882"><p>I'm assuming the 'you' in this statement isn't referring to 'me' personally, so I'll move on.</p><p></p><p>Your view seems simplistic to me - let me explain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I could describe <em>Of Mice and Men</em> as a book about people abusing a people with disabilities and they feel it's perfectly fine to do so. In that context, you could also say those people are evil and the book is inappropriate.</p><p></p><p>In <em>Of Mice and Men, </em> Lenny is constantly abused and humiliated by everyone around him. Are the people in the story evil? Or is it that people's perceptions of mental disabilities, in the story, are different than what we know today? Is that a discussion worth having or is that is that a straight no-go? George murders Lenny (sorry, spoiler). Is George a villain? You could argue he was being compassionate. Is it wrong to argue so? Does it mean I'm prejudice against people with disabilities? Does it mean we should never have any new stories that show people abusing people with disabilities?</p><p></p><p>I'm not implying that the books or Orcs or whatever shouldn't change. I'm challenging the view that there is only one method to be inclusive. I want to hear people's ideas of how to be inclusive in relation to all D&D tropes and explore how it might change the game. I want to explore other parts of the game that can be construed as insensitive and explore solutions. I'm not just talking race. I'm talking disabilities, ageism, sexism etc.. I find it interesting. It seems taboo to even talk about where people see the future of the game. From your post, it seems that you feel the game will change with people's attitudes. That's great. Why not say that instead of insisting that I'm an anti-change racist?</p><p></p><p>In the end, WotC is a gaming company so why should they have to tackle hard topics? It should be light and fun. They don't owe anyone challenging stories. If there is 'an established right' and 'wrong' in the real world, it is much safer and comfortable for people if their fiction or fantasy mirrors their own world view.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 8027850, member: 15882"] I'm assuming the 'you' in this statement isn't referring to 'me' personally, so I'll move on. Your view seems simplistic to me - let me explain. I could describe [I]Of Mice and Men[/I] as a book about people abusing a people with disabilities and they feel it's perfectly fine to do so. In that context, you could also say those people are evil and the book is inappropriate. In [I]Of Mice and Men, [/I] Lenny is constantly abused and humiliated by everyone around him. Are the people in the story evil? Or is it that people's perceptions of mental disabilities, in the story, are different than what we know today? Is that a discussion worth having or is that is that a straight no-go? George murders Lenny (sorry, spoiler). Is George a villain? You could argue he was being compassionate. Is it wrong to argue so? Does it mean I'm prejudice against people with disabilities? Does it mean we should never have any new stories that show people abusing people with disabilities? I'm not implying that the books or Orcs or whatever shouldn't change. I'm challenging the view that there is only one method to be inclusive. I want to hear people's ideas of how to be inclusive in relation to all D&D tropes and explore how it might change the game. I want to explore other parts of the game that can be construed as insensitive and explore solutions. I'm not just talking race. I'm talking disabilities, ageism, sexism etc.. I find it interesting. It seems taboo to even talk about where people see the future of the game. From your post, it seems that you feel the game will change with people's attitudes. That's great. Why not say that instead of insisting that I'm an anti-change racist? In the end, WotC is a gaming company so why should they have to tackle hard topics? It should be light and fun. They don't owe anyone challenging stories. If there is 'an established right' and 'wrong' in the real world, it is much safer and comfortable for people if their fiction or fantasy mirrors their own world view. [/QUOTE]
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