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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 8029122" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>D&D orcs are not LotR orcs. Additionally, as sapient beings, orcs have the freedom to deny the actions of their god and set out on their own path, unless you're there saying that likewise, elves, dwarves and all those sorts can't go and do their own thing?</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a legitimate issue that's been raised previously.. This isn't new. This has been something going on for years. Previous editions honestly it wasn't too bad because, they did better than 5E at it. But 5E handles orcs poorly this time around so the issue's hopped up again</p><p></p><p>And as for certain races being associated with actual real world people? Yes. People have been doing this ever since the first person gave a Scottish accent to dwarves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I fail to see how sexualisation has even entered into this conversation? Boobplate and all that is a completely different conversation that's mostly been done away with at this day and time due to artists.</p><p></p><p>People want fantasy races to be just that: Races. Cultures. Things to immerse yourself in. 5E's orcs are not that. They're slap-dashed stereotypes that previous editions found ways around. This is the same issue with gnolls, the same issue with Drow, the same issue with like a good 50% of the random 'We need a new race in this 3.5E book' races</p><p></p><p>Oh, and just to go for the obvious, you're complaining about things changing? 5E changed things from how they were in previous editions</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 8029122, member: 6801776"] D&D orcs are not LotR orcs. Additionally, as sapient beings, orcs have the freedom to deny the actions of their god and set out on their own path, unless you're there saying that likewise, elves, dwarves and all those sorts can't go and do their own thing? This is a legitimate issue that's been raised previously.. This isn't new. This has been something going on for years. Previous editions honestly it wasn't too bad because, they did better than 5E at it. But 5E handles orcs poorly this time around so the issue's hopped up again And as for certain races being associated with actual real world people? Yes. People have been doing this ever since the first person gave a Scottish accent to dwarves. I fail to see how sexualisation has even entered into this conversation? Boobplate and all that is a completely different conversation that's mostly been done away with at this day and time due to artists. People want fantasy races to be just that: Races. Cultures. Things to immerse yourself in. 5E's orcs are not that. They're slap-dashed stereotypes that previous editions found ways around. This is the same issue with gnolls, the same issue with Drow, the same issue with like a good 50% of the random 'We need a new race in this 3.5E book' races Oh, and just to go for the obvious, you're complaining about things changing? 5E changed things from how they were in previous editions [/QUOTE]
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