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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 1119155" data-attributes="member: 1356">True, if you take TWD then i'd say it's a +1 (+2 if fighting defensively) to AC for every situation a shield bonus can be used. But my point was it shouldn't require a feat in the first place. If all I'm doing is attacking with my rapier and using the dagger solely for defense, then I feel it should give you a bonus to AC. The reason for this is because if you look at how a buckler is used in actual fights, you'll see it's an active defense. The buckler is too small to block attacks without you actively moving it in the way of those attacks. In other words, you don't so much block attacks with a buckler as you parry them. Since a dagger (and main gauche especially) can be used the same way, then a defensive dagger should be able to give you a bonus to AC without requiring a feat to do so- especially if you're not also using it to attack. I see TWD as a feat that covers that situation- to get a defensive bonus while attacking with the 2nd weapon. But you should be able to get the defense bonus without requiring a feat IF you're not attacking as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 1119155, member: 1356"] True, if you take TWD then i'd say it's a +1 (+2 if fighting defensively) to AC for every situation a shield bonus can be used. But my point was it shouldn't require a feat in the first place. If all I'm doing is attacking with my rapier and using the dagger solely for defense, then I feel it should give you a bonus to AC. The reason for this is because if you look at how a buckler is used in actual fights, you'll see it's an active defense. The buckler is too small to block attacks without you actively moving it in the way of those attacks. In other words, you don't so much block attacks with a buckler as you [i]parry[/i] them. Since a dagger (and main gauche especially) can be used the same way, then a defensive dagger should be able to give you a bonus to AC without requiring a feat to do so- especially if you're not also using it to attack. I see TWD as a feat that covers that situation- to get a defensive bonus [i]while[/i] attacking with the 2nd weapon. But you should be able to get the defense bonus without requiring a feat [b]IF[/b] you're not attacking as well. [/QUOTE]

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