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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1124005" data-attributes="member: 1656">That's how armor spikes worked in 3E, but not shield spikes.Y'see, you don't need spikes to add weapon enhancements to a shield.&nbsp; But you do pay for different enhancements separately.To add a +1 enhancement bonus to a shield's armor bonus (or shield bonus in 3.5) costs 1000gp, and the shield must be a masterwork shield (150gp on top of the base price).&nbsp; To add a +1 enhancement bonus to a shield's attack and damage rolls costs 2000gp, and the shield must be a masterwork weapon (300gp on top of base price).A +5 Shield of Heavy Fortification which is also a +5 Ghost Touch Flaming Burst weapon with the Throwing and Returning abilities costs 10gp (base) + 150gp (masterwork shield) + 100,000gp (+10 shield MPM) + 300gp (masterwork weapon) + 200,000gp (+10 weapon MPM), for 300,460gp total, and acts as a +5 martial bludgeoning weapon.If you build it with spikes, it's a spiked shield, that acts as a +5 martial piercing weapon.&nbsp; You don't add any special abilities to the spikes; you add them to the spiked shield.In 3E, and in 3.5.Armor spikes in 3E were treated as a separate item.&nbsp; In 3.5, I'm not certain yet... &quot;spiked armor&quot; is an entry on the weapons table, not &quot;armor spikes&quot;.&nbsp; I'd need to look into it more closely.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1124005, member: 1656"] That's how armor spikes worked in 3E, but not shield spikes. Y'see, you don't [i]need[/i] spikes to add weapon enhancements to a shield. But you do pay for different enhancements separately. To add a +1 enhancement bonus to a shield's armor bonus (or shield bonus in 3.5) costs 1000gp, and the shield must be a masterwork shield (150gp on top of the base price). To add a +1 enhancement bonus to a shield's attack and damage rolls costs 2000gp, and the shield must be a masterwork weapon (300gp on top of base price). A +5 Shield of Heavy Fortification which is also a +5 Ghost Touch Flaming Burst weapon with the Throwing and Returning abilities costs 10gp (base) + 150gp (masterwork shield) + 100,000gp (+10 shield MPM) + 300gp (masterwork weapon) + 200,000gp (+10 weapon MPM), for 300,460gp total, and acts as a +5 martial bludgeoning weapon. If you build it with spikes, it's a spiked shield, that acts as a +5 martial piercing weapon. You don't add any special abilities to the [i]spikes[/i]; you add them to the [i]spiked shield[/i]. In 3E, and in 3.5. Armor spikes in 3E were treated as a separate item. In 3.5, I'm not certain yet... "spiked armor" is an entry on the weapons table, not "armor spikes". I'd need to look into it more closely. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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