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<blockquote data-quote="polyteknix" data-source="post: 7586242" data-attributes="member: 6991903"><p>Just wondering if there were any new developments here?</p><p></p><p>I have a PC who is an Eldritch Knight with the Dueling Fighting Stlye. Right now he is lvl 8 and uses a Longsword and Shield.</p><p></p><p>Conceptionally it makes sense to me that he should be able to raise his Damage a bit if he dropped the shield and wielded 2 weapons for non-bank situations.</p><p></p><p>Mechanically that's not the case. I mostly attributed it to the Fighting Style selection. But looking into it, even the TWF style would STILL lag behind. We're not talking about extreme optimization. Just having things make "sense".</p><p></p><p>Currently has 16 STR (18 INT).</p><p></p><p>Dueling;</p><p>Green Flame Blade + Bonus attack from War Magic:</p><p>2d8+5, 1d8+5 [3d8+10] 23.5 average</p><p>Attack Action plus TWF attack:</p><p>1d6+3, 1d6+3, 1d6 [3d6+6] 16.5 average</p><p></p><p>TWF style;</p><p>Green Flame Blade + Attack from War Magic:</p><p>2d8+3, 1d8+3 [3d8+6] 19.5 average</p><p>Attack Action + TWF attack:</p><p>1d6+3, 1d6+3, 1d6+3 [3d6+9] 19.5 average</p><p></p><p>Even building FOR TWF makes it no more than equal to using a 1h+shield.</p><p></p><p>I understand that changing the ability mod improves things 'slightly', but still...</p><p></p><p>Dueling Style 20 Str; GFB + WM - [3d8+14] 27.5 avg. / Attack + Offhand - [3d6+10] 20.5 avg</p><p>TWF Style 20 Str; GFB + WM - [3d8+10] 23.5 avg. / Attack + Offhand - [3d6+15] 25.5 avg</p><p></p><p>Using more weapons is strictly worse and that bothers me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="polyteknix, post: 7586242, member: 6991903"] Just wondering if there were any new developments here? I have a PC who is an Eldritch Knight with the Dueling Fighting Stlye. Right now he is lvl 8 and uses a Longsword and Shield. Conceptionally it makes sense to me that he should be able to raise his Damage a bit if he dropped the shield and wielded 2 weapons for non-bank situations. Mechanically that's not the case. I mostly attributed it to the Fighting Style selection. But looking into it, even the TWF style would STILL lag behind. We're not talking about extreme optimization. Just having things make "sense". Currently has 16 STR (18 INT). Dueling; Green Flame Blade + Bonus attack from War Magic: 2d8+5, 1d8+5 [3d8+10] 23.5 average Attack Action plus TWF attack: 1d6+3, 1d6+3, 1d6 [3d6+6] 16.5 average TWF style; Green Flame Blade + Attack from War Magic: 2d8+3, 1d8+3 [3d8+6] 19.5 average Attack Action + TWF attack: 1d6+3, 1d6+3, 1d6+3 [3d6+9] 19.5 average Even building FOR TWF makes it no more than equal to using a 1h+shield. I understand that changing the ability mod improves things 'slightly', but still... Dueling Style 20 Str; GFB + WM - [3d8+14] 27.5 avg. / Attack + Offhand - [3d6+10] 20.5 avg TWF Style 20 Str; GFB + WM - [3d8+10] 23.5 avg. / Attack + Offhand - [3d6+15] 25.5 avg Using more weapons is strictly worse and that bothers me. [/QUOTE]
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