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<blockquote data-quote="Traveon Wyvernspur" data-source="post: 4398920" data-attributes="member: 73201"><p>I'm really confused on the Two-Weapon Fighting rules. From what I'm getting reading the PHB, it seems that ONLY Rangers can use two-weapon fighting. I see the feat for two-weapon fighting in the PHB, but it doesn't specify if you can use both weapons in the same round or what kind of penalities are applied to characters who try to do so, like in the older versions of D&D. The "off-hand" weapon section (pg. 217) states: <span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'">Off-Hand: </span></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">An off-hand weapon is light enough</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">that you can hold it and attack effectively with it</span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">while holding a weapon in your main hand. You can’t</span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">attack with both weapons in the same turn, unless</span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">you have a power that lets you do so, but you can</span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">attack with either weapon.</span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">Now this seems to state that you cannot use two weapons in the same round unless you have a "power" to do so, meaning (to me) only a Ranger with two-weapon fighting (that he gets automatically picking the two-weapon path thing) can use his two-weapon powers to attack in the same round. OR a player who gets the two-weapon proficiency and multi-classes into a Ranger. This seems really silly to me.</span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">My thoughts are why would this even be a feat that someone else can get but no be able to wield two weapons in the same round/turn? The old rules stated penalities to characters who wanted to do this of like -2 to main hand and -4 to offhand on their attack and damage rolls, then went down to -1 for main, -2 for off-hand when they picked up the proficiency. </span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'">As the DM of the current game that I'm running, I'm going to allow my friend who is playing a rogue to use two Katars if he picks up the two-weapon feat, I'm going to allow him to do a power with only the main-hand weapon and a regular melee attack with the off-hand. I'm just wanting to know if people think I'm right in doing this since it makes sense to me from what I'm used to playing and why would there be a two-weapon feat that doesn't allow someone to wield two weapons at the same time and they don't want to multi-class into a ranger?</span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Please post any thoughts or comments, I would greatly appreciate any help on trying to decide this matter once and for all.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Trav</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traveon Wyvernspur, post: 4398920, member: 73201"] I'm really confused on the Two-Weapon Fighting rules. From what I'm getting reading the PHB, it seems that ONLY Rangers can use two-weapon fighting. I see the feat for two-weapon fighting in the PHB, but it doesn't specify if you can use both weapons in the same round or what kind of penalities are applied to characters who try to do so, like in the older versions of D&D. The "off-hand" weapon section (pg. 217) states: [FONT=MentorStd-Bold][SIZE=2] [B][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd-Bold]Off-Hand: [/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [/SIZE][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]An off-hand weapon is light enough[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2] [LEFT][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]that you can hold it and attack effectively with it[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]while holding a weapon in your main hand. You can’t[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]attack with both weapons in the same turn, unless[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]you have a power that lets you do so, but you can[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]attack with either weapon.[/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]Now this seems to state that you cannot use two weapons in the same round unless you have a "power" to do so, meaning (to me) only a Ranger with two-weapon fighting (that he gets automatically picking the two-weapon path thing) can use his two-weapon powers to attack in the same round. OR a player who gets the two-weapon proficiency and multi-classes into a Ranger. This seems really silly to me.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]My thoughts are why would this even be a feat that someone else can get but no be able to wield two weapons in the same round/turn? The old rules stated penalities to characters who wanted to do this of like -2 to main hand and -4 to offhand on their attack and damage rolls, then went down to -1 for main, -2 for off-hand when they picked up the proficiency. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd]As the DM of the current game that I'm running, I'm going to allow my friend who is playing a rogue to use two Katars if he picks up the two-weapon feat, I'm going to allow him to do a power with only the main-hand weapon and a regular melee attack with the off-hand. I'm just wanting to know if people think I'm right in doing this since it makes sense to me from what I'm used to playing and why would there be a two-weapon feat that doesn't allow someone to wield two weapons at the same time and they don't want to multi-class into a ranger?[/FONT][/SIZE] Please post any thoughts or comments, I would greatly appreciate any help on trying to decide this matter once and for all. Trav[/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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