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<blockquote data-quote="Alabast" data-source="post: 4401527" data-attributes="member: 61888"><p>Don't get hung up on class labels. Third edition has more flexibility concerning individual classes, but fourth edition makes the classes better by giving them niches that the other classes don't tread upon. Creating the build you want in fourth edition means figuring out what you want that character to do best and selecting the class that fills that niche.</p><p></p><p>Say you want make a two-weapon fighting character. There are many ways to go about it depending on how you want to fight with two weapons:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>1) I want to attack as many possible times per round with my twin blades of red, misty, death</em>.</strong></p><p>Congrats, you are a ranger.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>2) As (1), but I want to stand in one spot while my enemies fall around me.</em></strong></p><p>You are a fighter multiclassed as ranger. Taking all of the multiclass feats + more rangeriness in lieu of a paragon path should, unless I am mistaken (I don't have the book in front of me), give you a TWF at-will, TWO TWF encounters, and TWO TWF dailies. Should be plenty for any aspiring meat-grinder.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>3) I want to play a 3e-style TWF fighter.</em></strong></p><p>Easy enough. You are a ranger with some Armor Proficiency feats. 3e fighters could not do things like combat challenge and tanking anyway. They just ran around and killed things. Which is kind of what rangers do now.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>4) I want to play a swashbucklery warrior with a rapier and dagger.</em></strong></p><p>Welcome to rogue-ville. Population: You plus many others. Take TWF and go to town. If you need the extra attacks, follow the step outlined under (2), only replace "fighter" with "rogue".</p><p></p><p><strong><em>5) I want to be a Roy Greenhilt-style intelligent fighter that is able to out-think his enemies in addition fight with two weapons. (Yes, I know Roy doesn't fight with two weapons)</em></strong></p><p>It's true that INT is now a dump-stat for fighters. Smart fighters are now called warlords. Take some Armor feats and some ranger multiclass goodness, and you're ready to dish it out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alabast, post: 4401527, member: 61888"] Don't get hung up on class labels. Third edition has more flexibility concerning individual classes, but fourth edition makes the classes better by giving them niches that the other classes don't tread upon. Creating the build you want in fourth edition means figuring out what you want that character to do best and selecting the class that fills that niche. Say you want make a two-weapon fighting character. There are many ways to go about it depending on how you want to fight with two weapons: [B][I]1) I want to attack as many possible times per round with my twin blades of red, misty, death[/I].[/B] Congrats, you are a ranger. [B][I]2) As (1), but I want to stand in one spot while my enemies fall around me.[/I][/B] You are a fighter multiclassed as ranger. Taking all of the multiclass feats + more rangeriness in lieu of a paragon path should, unless I am mistaken (I don't have the book in front of me), give you a TWF at-will, TWO TWF encounters, and TWO TWF dailies. Should be plenty for any aspiring meat-grinder. [B][I]3) I want to play a 3e-style TWF fighter.[/I][/B] Easy enough. You are a ranger with some Armor Proficiency feats. 3e fighters could not do things like combat challenge and tanking anyway. They just ran around and killed things. Which is kind of what rangers do now. [B][I]4) I want to play a swashbucklery warrior with a rapier and dagger.[/I][/B] Welcome to rogue-ville. Population: You plus many others. Take TWF and go to town. If you need the extra attacks, follow the step outlined under (2), only replace "fighter" with "rogue". [B][I]5) I want to be a Roy Greenhilt-style intelligent fighter that is able to out-think his enemies in addition fight with two weapons. (Yes, I know Roy doesn't fight with two weapons)[/I][/B] It's true that INT is now a dump-stat for fighters. Smart fighters are now called warlords. Take some Armor feats and some ranger multiclass goodness, and you're ready to dish it out. [/QUOTE]
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