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<blockquote data-quote="Kaylos" data-source="post: 6353095" data-attributes="member: 6778092"><p>I know when I lived in the south, Single stick + Madu was pretty popular for a while, if not exactly historic. A madu is basically a staff with spear tips on the ends, usually with a boss over the hand.</p><p></p><p>As for sword and shield, it isn't all bad. A guy on reddit listed the Shield master feat, allowing a shield user to get a free shove as Bonus Action. Pretty nasty being able to get a free shove action every turn, and makes Strength a little more attractive since a Dex monkey shield user wouldn't get much benefit from it. The other styles have to give up an attack for a shove while the shield user would not. Combine that with Duelist fighting style, and the damage isn't too bad either as shown in my post above.</p><p></p><p>As for the SCA, Sword/Shield dominates the tourney lists for the most part, but there is the occasional Two Stick or Polearm fighter than wins the top tourney lists. I had a guy from my household win the Midrealm crown list with a Polearm. He is downright nasty with that damn thing and it is definitely a double weapon. He uses that buttspike to deadly effect at close range.</p><p></p><p>edit: A Duelist Shield user does about 15% less base damage (not accounting for crits) than a GWF. His 2 Ac advantage turns into about 15% less damage taken against +11 hit (21 vs 19 AC assuming defnsive taken as 2nd style). So not too far off from each other. Also he gets a free shove and against less than +11 starts to take significantly less damage than a GWF using a Greatsword/Maul.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaylos, post: 6353095, member: 6778092"] I know when I lived in the south, Single stick + Madu was pretty popular for a while, if not exactly historic. A madu is basically a staff with spear tips on the ends, usually with a boss over the hand. As for sword and shield, it isn't all bad. A guy on reddit listed the Shield master feat, allowing a shield user to get a free shove as Bonus Action. Pretty nasty being able to get a free shove action every turn, and makes Strength a little more attractive since a Dex monkey shield user wouldn't get much benefit from it. The other styles have to give up an attack for a shove while the shield user would not. Combine that with Duelist fighting style, and the damage isn't too bad either as shown in my post above. As for the SCA, Sword/Shield dominates the tourney lists for the most part, but there is the occasional Two Stick or Polearm fighter than wins the top tourney lists. I had a guy from my household win the Midrealm crown list with a Polearm. He is downright nasty with that damn thing and it is definitely a double weapon. He uses that buttspike to deadly effect at close range. edit: A Duelist Shield user does about 15% less base damage (not accounting for crits) than a GWF. His 2 Ac advantage turns into about 15% less damage taken against +11 hit (21 vs 19 AC assuming defnsive taken as 2nd style). So not too far off from each other. Also he gets a free shove and against less than +11 starts to take significantly less damage than a GWF using a Greatsword/Maul. [/QUOTE]
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