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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 5406530" data-attributes="member: 5834">Twin Blades (Ex)At 5th level, a two-weapon warrior gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when making a full-attack with two weapons or a double weapon. This bonus increases by +1 for every four levels after 5th.This ability replaces Weapon Training 1. This ability seems lame. You get your normal weapon training bonuses when fighting with two weapons and taking a full attack action. But you get nothing when making a standard attack with both weapons when doing the following:Doublestrike (Ex)At 9th level, a two-weapon warrior may, as a standard action, make one attack with both his primary and secondary weapons. The penalties for attacking with two weapons apply normally.This ability replaces Weapon Training 2. Equal Opportunity (Ex)At 13th level, when a two-weapon warrior makes an attack of opportunity, he may attack once with both his primary and secondary weapons. The penalties for attacking with two weapons apply normally.This ability replaces Weapon Training 3. So no bonuses when making AoOs or a single standard action attack with both weapons. So you only get the bonus when in position to make a full attack.Is that how it is adjudicated? Seems like a lot to give up when you can build a two-weapon fighter without taking the Two-weapon warrior archetype and pick multiple weapons to be good at and get their bonus all the time. The weapon training bonus alone cancels out fighting with two one-handed weapons and still gives  you +4 damage. And you don't lose armor mastery or the ability to get other weapons like a bow or thrown weapons with later weapon training.Is the Two-weapon archetype so poorly designed that it is better to build a two-weapon fighter without the archetype?The only advantage is once your 19th level and get a ton of AoOs when people hit you, but you don't get a bonus on attack and damage on your AoOs. But other than that, there is no real advantage to the Two-weapon warrior archetype over building a two-weapon fighter using the standard fighter abilities.Anyone see the advantage of choosing the Two-weapon Archetype over the standard fighter using feats to be a great two-weapon fighter?</blockquote>

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