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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 5407090" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>re</strong></p><p></p><p>I read Dervish Dance. I believe it only gives the bonus to single scimitar users.</p><p></p><p>Relevant text from feat.</p><p></p><p><em>You cannot use this feat if you are carrying a weapon or shield in your off hand.</em></p><p></p><p>The +28 comes from the following:</p><p></p><p><em>Perfect Balance (Ex)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>At 15th level, the penalties for fighting with two weapons are reduced by an additional –1 for a two-weapon warrior. This benefit stacks with improved balance. If he is using a one-handed weapon in his off hand, treating it as a light weapon, he uses the normal light weapon penalties.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>This ability replaces Armor Training 4. </em></p><p></p><p>How I read perfect balance is you get the further -1 for a total of -2 and you can use a one-handed weapon in your off hand like a light weapon. And the -2 applies as though the one handed weapon were a light weapon completely eliminating the off hand penalty.</p><p></p><p>I think that is what is intended. Because the previous balance allows you to alternatively use an off hand weapon as a light weapon instead of taking the -1 penalty. Whereas Perfect Balance has no such limitation.</p><p></p><p>So I think it is intended that you do the following:</p><p></p><p>One handed equals light weapon causing -2 on main and off hand attacks</p><p></p><p>Perfect balance reduces penalties for two-weapon fighting by total of -2.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Meaning no penalty for fighting with one handed off-hand weapon. Which offsets the -4 you would have received as a normal two-weapon fighter fighting with a one handed weapon.</p><p></p><p>Thus you end up being +28 when full attacking at 15th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 5407090, member: 5834"] [b]re[/b] I read Dervish Dance. I believe it only gives the bonus to single scimitar users. Relevant text from feat. [i]You cannot use this feat if you are carrying a weapon or shield in your off hand.[/i] The +28 comes from the following: [i]Perfect Balance (Ex) At 15th level, the penalties for fighting with two weapons are reduced by an additional –1 for a two-weapon warrior. This benefit stacks with improved balance. If he is using a one-handed weapon in his off hand, treating it as a light weapon, he uses the normal light weapon penalties. This ability replaces Armor Training 4. [/i] How I read perfect balance is you get the further -1 for a total of -2 and you can use a one-handed weapon in your off hand like a light weapon. And the -2 applies as though the one handed weapon were a light weapon completely eliminating the off hand penalty. I think that is what is intended. Because the previous balance allows you to alternatively use an off hand weapon as a light weapon instead of taking the -1 penalty. Whereas Perfect Balance has no such limitation. So I think it is intended that you do the following: One handed equals light weapon causing -2 on main and off hand attacks Perfect balance reduces penalties for two-weapon fighting by total of -2. Meaning no penalty for fighting with one handed off-hand weapon. Which offsets the -4 you would have received as a normal two-weapon fighter fighting with a one handed weapon. Thus you end up being +28 when full attacking at 15th level. [/QUOTE]
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