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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8783845" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>The playtests organize the classes into four "groups":</p><p>expert, mage, priest, warrior.</p><p></p><p>These groups resemble the 2e groups:</p><p>rogue, wizard, priest, warrior.</p><p></p><p>Even so, the UA groups behave like 4e roles, in the sense of a wellrounded party will have at least one class from each group. Exactly what each group brings to the party remains unclear, and is unlikely to be the 4e roles. For example, the UA warrior group will probably combine the 4e defender and striker roles, and perhaps have aspects of leader and controller roles as well. The UA expert group will all have the Expertise mechanic to improve skill proficiency. Presumably there is more to the expert group as well. At least some feats will have a group as a prerequisite. So, these feats will also reflect the mechanics and narratives that typify the classes in the expert group.</p><p></p><p>The plan so far is, the 2024 Players Handbook will have twelve classes and forty-eight subclasses. Possibly, there will three classes per group in this Players Handbook. The expert group will include the following classes: Bard, Ranger, Rogue. The Artificer will also be an expert class but it will not be in the Players Handbook.</p><p></p><p>Judging by what we know from the UA announcement, and comparing to the 2e groups. Interestingly, instead of a "2e warrior", the Ranger will be 2024 "expert".</p><p></p><p>[Edit]: Now that the UA is out, here are the groups.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.enworld.org/attachments/1664472562267-png.262614/" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Earlier text"]</p><p>The 2024 Players Handbook groups will probably look like the following:</p><p></p><p>Expert (2e Rogue): Rogue, Bard, Ranger</p><p>Mage (2e Wizard): Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock (?)</p><p>Priest (2e Priest): Cleric, Druid (?), Monk (?)</p><p>Warrior (2e Warrior): Fighter, Barbarian, Paladin (?)</p><p></p><p>The Ranger as an expert is a surprise, a pleasant one. Where the question marks are may also be surprises. Some forumers suggest swapping the Paladin and Monk. But who knows? Perhaps the Druid is a mage and the Warlock is a priest? We will see.[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Regarding base classes, the expert group currently includes: non-caster, part-caster, full-caster. This probably wont parallel the other groups, but it suggests a group doesnt especially relate to spellcasting in itself.</p><p></p><p>In addition to the Artificer, any hypothetical classes such as Warlord, Psion, and Swordmage would add to the list of classes beyond the Players Handbook, and each correlate with one of the four groups.</p><p></p><p>Mention your hopes and fears about these four groups.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8783845, member: 58172"] The playtests organize the classes into four "groups": expert, mage, priest, warrior. These groups resemble the 2e groups: rogue, wizard, priest, warrior. Even so, the UA groups behave like 4e roles, in the sense of a wellrounded party will have at least one class from each group. Exactly what each group brings to the party remains unclear, and is unlikely to be the 4e roles. For example, the UA warrior group will probably combine the 4e defender and striker roles, and perhaps have aspects of leader and controller roles as well. The UA expert group will all have the Expertise mechanic to improve skill proficiency. Presumably there is more to the expert group as well. At least some feats will have a group as a prerequisite. So, these feats will also reflect the mechanics and narratives that typify the classes in the expert group. The plan so far is, the 2024 Players Handbook will have twelve classes and forty-eight subclasses. Possibly, there will three classes per group in this Players Handbook. The expert group will include the following classes: Bard, Ranger, Rogue. The Artificer will also be an expert class but it will not be in the Players Handbook. Judging by what we know from the UA announcement, and comparing to the 2e groups. Interestingly, instead of a "2e warrior", the Ranger will be 2024 "expert". [Edit]: Now that the UA is out, here are the groups. [IMG]https://www.enworld.org/attachments/1664472562267-png.262614/[/IMG] [SPOILER="Earlier text"] The 2024 Players Handbook groups will probably look like the following: Expert (2e Rogue): Rogue, Bard, Ranger Mage (2e Wizard): Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock (?) Priest (2e Priest): Cleric, Druid (?), Monk (?) Warrior (2e Warrior): Fighter, Barbarian, Paladin (?) The Ranger as an expert is a surprise, a pleasant one. Where the question marks are may also be surprises. Some forumers suggest swapping the Paladin and Monk. But who knows? Perhaps the Druid is a mage and the Warlock is a priest? We will see.[/SPOILER] Regarding base classes, the expert group currently includes: non-caster, part-caster, full-caster. This probably wont parallel the other groups, but it suggests a group doesnt especially relate to spellcasting in itself. In addition to the Artificer, any hypothetical classes such as Warlord, Psion, and Swordmage would add to the list of classes beyond the Players Handbook, and each correlate with one of the four groups. Mention your hopes and fears about these four groups. [/QUOTE]
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