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UA Monks Introduces the Kensai and Tranquility Traditions
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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7705064" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>IDK if you guys have worked out how bonkers the Kensai is.</p><p></p><p> Yes you can't use martial arts/flury of blows. You are trading up from a d8 at best two handed weapon to one that deals 1d12/2d6.</p><p></p><p> Additionally you can combo it with great weapon master and polearm master. A level 5 Kensai with PAM can attack 3 targets dealing an extra 1d4 damage to all of them and on average dealing 2 points of damage more than the way of the fist monk via a bigger weapon. That 1d4 replaces your extra attacks.</p><p></p><p>Consider (assuming 18 dex)</p><p></p><p>1d8+4/1d8+4/1d6+4 (24.5 avg)</p><p></p><p>vs</p><p></p><p>2d6+4/2d6+4/+2d4 (27)</p><p></p><p> The number are looking good so far. Its situational on the amount of attacks that hit but so is the normal monks flurry of blows/martial arts. When you spend Ki points to flurry that is better.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Additionally the way it is worded any martial weapon you are proficient with becomes a kensai weapon. Consider that with multiclassing and with an elf who picks up kensai longswords and longbows for free. Magical longswords are also a bit more common it seems than the other weapon types but at least you deal magical damage at level 6. </p><p></p><p> If you got to use martial arts/flurry of blows with Kensai weapons you just obsoleted every other monk and probably the fighter types as well in terms of damage and you could take sharpshooter and great weapon master. Things can even get more funky with rolled stats and official races having +2 wisdom now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7705064, member: 6716779"] IDK if you guys have worked out how bonkers the Kensai is. Yes you can't use martial arts/flury of blows. You are trading up from a d8 at best two handed weapon to one that deals 1d12/2d6. Additionally you can combo it with great weapon master and polearm master. A level 5 Kensai with PAM can attack 3 targets dealing an extra 1d4 damage to all of them and on average dealing 2 points of damage more than the way of the fist monk via a bigger weapon. That 1d4 replaces your extra attacks. Consider (assuming 18 dex) 1d8+4/1d8+4/1d6+4 (24.5 avg) vs 2d6+4/2d6+4/+2d4 (27) The number are looking good so far. Its situational on the amount of attacks that hit but so is the normal monks flurry of blows/martial arts. When you spend Ki points to flurry that is better. Additionally the way it is worded any martial weapon you are proficient with becomes a kensai weapon. Consider that with multiclassing and with an elf who picks up kensai longswords and longbows for free. Magical longswords are also a bit more common it seems than the other weapon types but at least you deal magical damage at level 6. If you got to use martial arts/flurry of blows with Kensai weapons you just obsoleted every other monk and probably the fighter types as well in terms of damage and you could take sharpshooter and great weapon master. Things can even get more funky with rolled stats and official races having +2 wisdom now. [/QUOTE]
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