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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Brennen" data-source="post: 7705204" data-attributes="member: 553"><p>Kinda. Here's the tweets from Mearls:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@mikemearls</strong> Dec 13 <em> Quick UA clarification - kensai weapons are not monk weapons</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@mikemearls</strong> 15 hours ago <em>A better explanation - a kensai weapon is not automatically a monk weapon.</em> This is in response to a question about the shortsword</p><p></p><p>BUT</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@mikemearls</strong> 15h hours ago <em>Sometimes knowing the system guts is a bad thing. You can get the benefits from Martial Arts when holding a kensai weapon.</em></p><p></p><p>Of course, this is really not much of a distinction, since Martial Arts is the only Monk feature that even mentions Monk Weapons.</p><p></p><p>And to add to the confusion:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@mikemearls</strong> Dec 13 <em>mainly balance - can't flurry with kensai weapon</em> </p><p></p><p>but I think he was mis-remembering, thinking you could flurry with monk weapons. Flurry is Unarmed Strike only. It's the <em>damage</em> an unarmed strike would do that's dependent on the Martial Arts, and since you get all those benefits, there's nothing preventing you from using a kensei weapon and then a bonus action FoB using full Martial Arts damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Something needs to be done so the heavy two-handed weapons aren't the obvious choice for kensei, but just an option. For a fighter, you're balancing with giving up a shield.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Per Jeremy Crawford, that's not meant to be an option:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@JeremyECrawford</strong> Dec 12 <em>Rereading a playtest rule, I'm chuckling at the absurdity caused by accidentally omitting "within 5 feet of you." Pummeling at long range!</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reach?</p><p></p><p>Really, in the end, I think these statements from the wotc staff imply this version of the Kensei tradition is dead in the water:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@JeremyECrawford</strong> 18 hours ago <em>It was an experiment. Playtest feedback is rapidly showing it isn't an experiment worth carrying forward.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@JeremyECrawford</strong> 19 hours ago <em>It's funny you ask. We already have a different version of the kensei in mind. That's the nature of design: iterate, iterate, iterate.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>@mikemearls</strong> 14 hours ago <em>All of the UA stuff will receive revisions - honestly, monk is just sloppiness on my part.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Brennen, post: 7705204, member: 553"] Kinda. Here's the tweets from Mearls: [INDENT][b]@mikemearls[/b] Dec 13 [i] Quick UA clarification - kensai weapons are not monk weapons[/i] [b]@mikemearls[/b] 15 hours ago [i]A better explanation - a kensai weapon is not automatically a monk weapon.[/i] This is in response to a question about the shortsword[/INDENT] BUT [INDENT][b]@mikemearls[/b] 15h hours ago [i]Sometimes knowing the system guts is a bad thing. You can get the benefits from Martial Arts when holding a kensai weapon.[/i][/INDENT] Of course, this is really not much of a distinction, since Martial Arts is the only Monk feature that even mentions Monk Weapons. And to add to the confusion: [INDENT][b]@mikemearls[/b] Dec 13 [i]mainly balance - can't flurry with kensai weapon[/i] [/INDENT] but I think he was mis-remembering, thinking you could flurry with monk weapons. Flurry is Unarmed Strike only. It's the [i]damage[/i] an unarmed strike would do that's dependent on the Martial Arts, and since you get all those benefits, there's nothing preventing you from using a kensei weapon and then a bonus action FoB using full Martial Arts damage. Something needs to be done so the heavy two-handed weapons aren't the obvious choice for kensei, but just an option. For a fighter, you're balancing with giving up a shield. Per Jeremy Crawford, that's not meant to be an option: [INDENT][b]@JeremyECrawford[/b] Dec 12 [i]Rereading a playtest rule, I'm chuckling at the absurdity caused by accidentally omitting "within 5 feet of you." Pummeling at long range![/i][/INDENT] Reach? Really, in the end, I think these statements from the wotc staff imply this version of the Kensei tradition is dead in the water: [INDENT] [b]@JeremyECrawford[/b] 18 hours ago [i]It was an experiment. Playtest feedback is rapidly showing it isn't an experiment worth carrying forward.[/i] [b]@JeremyECrawford[/b] 19 hours ago [i]It's funny you ask. We already have a different version of the kensei in mind. That's the nature of design: iterate, iterate, iterate.[/i] [b]@mikemearls[/b] 14 hours ago [i]All of the UA stuff will receive revisions - honestly, monk is just sloppiness on my part.[/i][/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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