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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7723939" data-attributes="member: 2525">There is no fallacy of "it's just your opinion". Pointing out you're substituting opinion for fact on a subjective matter is in fact rather sound argumentation. If you feel it shuts down the argument, that's probably a sign it's a really good retort. It IS in fact your opinion, right? It IS a subjective issue, right?  Assuming both answers are yes, it's not really well suited to some argument about what is best. It's like arguing which is the "best" color.  But if you care to check build guides, you know where to find them. I put a lot of work into copying them over from the old WOTC boards, other people put a lot of work into making them, and then making more of them, and then us all collating them into a directory, and then still others turned it into a wiki page here recently. Go look if you're curious.  You can also search for the cantrips polls if you like. I see no point in chasing this subjective topic further though. You want to be "right" on a matter of subjective opinion. Good luck with that. For me, being able to choose provides the power of flexibility that the rigidity of the Eladrin doesn't provide. For you, the Eladrin happens to provide almost all of your favorite cantrips. It sounds like a good match for your tastes. That does not, however, mean your opinion is universal or even well shared by a majority such that it is overpowered simply because you happen to like those cantrips.And if you think the burden of proof is on me to prove you wrong, you are incorrect. You are the one that made the claim it's "Massively" overpowered because it provides "the best" cantrips. The burden is on you to prove they are considered "the best", not on me to disprove your bald assertion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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