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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Soulknife_Infiltrator" data-source="post: 9653295" data-attributes="member: 7040881">The UA Phantom Rogue still seems boring and outdated in 5e2024.The Wails from the Grave basically unchanged, which still does subpar damage and nothing else. Dex Mod per long rest is slightly better than 2014, but doesn't change the fact that "just a 2d6" is pure boring.Whispers of the Dead is completedly unchanged. It gives you one proficiency in one skill or one tool, and, nothing. What's the fun in that when you have Soulknife, Thief, Arcane Trickster in your PHB? Even Assassin with Assassinate feels better than Phantom Rogue's Level3.I've met tons of Phantom Rogue players back in 5e2014 who told me they feel like haven't picked a subclass at all before Level 9. I can't accept it still feels like this in 5e2024.Tokens of the Departed still requires your Reaction to gain a trinket which conflicts with your Uncanny Dodge and OA.Ghost Walk, unchanged, good, too late.Death’s Friend, basically unchanged, still weak as hell as a lv17 feature.Like, we have a Hexblade who's got free Hex uses+Hexblade's Maneuvers at level 3 which is so cool, fun and useful in the same UA.And we also have a new Ranger subclass that also provides powerful and flavorful feature at level3.Like, I dunno why but Rogue is already a pretty weak class in 5e2024, but designers still treat it so carelessly.  The Phantom Rogue's design and power is obviously outdated.It can't keep up anymore from both power-wise and fun-wise. The mechanism of it also feels outdated if you tried those renewed PHB subclasses.Designer still have a chance to renew the Phantom Rogue, and I hope they would.</blockquote>

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