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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9078327" data-attributes="member: 6704184">If you attack, you probably aren't invisible anymore. If there is an oops they're g0ing to fix in the next version it's the invisibility with no &quot;until you do xyz&quot; clause.Did you think they changed it for no reason?Let's see, it's tied to in the level 20 class feature, a Hunter ribbon feature, and a Beastmaster feature. That's it. THe BM feature could be easily replaced with anything else to add a die of damage regularly but not at-will. 2 out of 4 subclasses have one feature each that references HM. If you read the new proposed ranger update, and you think players will just be spamming HM at all times...you've read the class incorrectly, or don't understand the game very well.I read it, and apperently did a better job of reading it than your bff treatmonk.LOL When I start presenting my opinion for public consumption as if I'm an expert people should listen to, I'll care. TM may have made good class guides once upon a time, idk I never read them. But his 5e work is...well, it reminds me of the axiom that generals are always trying to fight the war before the one they're in.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9078327, member: 6704184"] If you attack, you probably aren't invisible anymore. If there is an oops they're g0ing to fix in the next version it's the invisibility with no "until you do xyz" clause. Did you think they changed it for no reason? Let's see, it's tied to in the level 20 class feature, a Hunter ribbon feature, and a Beastmaster feature. That's it. THe BM feature could be easily replaced with anything else to add a die of damage regularly but not at-will. 2 out of 4 subclasses have one feature each that references HM. If you read the new proposed ranger update, and you think players will just be spamming HM at all times...you've read the class incorrectly, or don't understand the game very well. I read it, and apperently did a better job of reading it than your bff treatmonk. LOL When I start presenting my opinion for public consumption as if I'm an expert people should listen to, I'll care. TM may have made good class guides once upon a time, idk I never read them. But his 5e work is...well, it reminds me of the axiom that generals are always trying to fight the war before the one they're in. [/QUOTE]

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